Nov 4, 2010

Re: re: Dear Charles Weinblatt: Do you agree with the Holocaust denial laws?

 



Begin forwarded message:

From: "Chuck Weinblatt" <csw2@bex.net>
Date: November 4, 2010 5:24:14 PM EDT
To: "'Michael'" <reporternotebook@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Dear Charles Weinblatt: Do you agree with the Holocaust denial laws?

According to The Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe (Institute for Contemporary History) in Munich, Germany, 1992, the following extermination camps existed:

 

Kulmhof, i.e. Chelmno (in the then Wartheland), where between December 1941 and fall 1942 and again from May until August 1944 gassings by means of carbon monoxide from motor exhaust gas took place. Altogether more than 150,000 Jews as well as 5000 gypsies have hereby been killed.

 

Belzec (in the district Lublin of the then general governments): from march to December 1942 in the beginning in three, later in six large gas chambers by means of carbon monoxide from motor exhaust gas altogether about 600,000 Jews were killed here.

 

Sobibor (district Lublin, general government) received in April 1942 three, later in September 1942 six gas chambers and until October 1943 it was "in operation". During this period at least 200,000 Jews have been murdered through carbon monoxide gas.

 

Treblinka (district Warschau, general government) from the end of July 1942 on had three gas chambers and received at the start of September 1942 furthermore ten larger gas chambers. Up to the dissolution of the camp in November 1943 altogether 700,000 Jews were killed here by carbon monoxide.

 

Majdanek (district Lublin, general government): The concentration camp existing since September 1941 turned into an extermination camp when between April 1942 and November 1943 mass shootings took place to which 24,000 Jews fell victim. In October 1942 also two, later three gas chambers were built. In the beginning the killings in these were done by means of carbon monoxide, soon however one was using Zyklon B (a highly poisonous insecticide made from cyan hydrogen). Up until the dissolution of the camp in March 1944 about 50,000 Jews have been gassed.

 

Auschwitz-Birkenau (in the formerly polish, in 1939 adjoined to the "Reich" upper eastern Silesian area, south eastern of Kattowitz): The extermination camp in Birkenau, established in the second half of 1941, was joined to the concentration camp Auschwitz, existing since May 1940. From January 1942 on, in five gas chambers; and from the end of June 1943 in four additional large gassing-rooms, gassings with Zyklon B have been undertaken. Up until November 1944 more than one million Jews and at least 4,000 gypsies have been murdered by gas.

 

In the following concentration camps gas chambers were established and have gone into operation:

 

Mauthausen (upper Austria): From fall 1941 on one gas chamber existed which was operated with Zyklon B. In addition, gassings with carbon monoxide took place through gas vans which were driven between Mauthausen and its side-camp Gusen. Altogether more than 4000 have been killed here through gas.

 

Neuengamme (southeastern of Hamburg): From fall of 1942 on gassings with Zyklon B were undertaken here in a "Bunker" prepared for that, about 450 victims.

 

Sachsenhausen (Province Brandenburg, north of Berlin) received mid March 1943 a gas chamber which was operated with Zyklon B. Several thousand people fell victim to the gassings, a more specific number cannot be determined.

 

Natzweiler (by Struthof, Elsass): From August 1943 to August 1944 a gas chamber existed here in which between 120 and 200 people were killed through Zyklon B in order to be able to dissect their skeletons for the Anatomica Institute of University of Strassburg. Back then this institute was managed by a chief company commander of SS Prof. Dr. August Hirt.

 

Stutthof (east of Danzig) had from June 1944 on one gas chamber in which more than 1000 were killed by Zyklon B.

 

Ravensbruck (Bradenburg, north of Berlin): Here still in January 1945 a gas chamber was established; the number of the people killed in it was at least 2,300.

 

Dachau (Upper Bavaria, northeast of Munich): During the establishment of a new house of cremation in 1942 also a gas chamber was established in it in which in connection with the medical experiments of the chief company commander of SS Dr. Rascher also a few experimental gassings were undertaken, as more recent research has confirmed. (On that see Gunther Kimmel: The Concentration Camp Dachau. A study of the Nazi crimes of violence in Bavaria in the NS-time II, edited by Martin Broszat and Elke Froehlich, Munich, R. Oldenburg Press, 1979, P. 391.) Larger gassing operations have not taken place in Dachau.

The victims of the operation groups of the security service and the SD behind the German frontier in the Russia-campaign were to the by far largest part Jews. Their number is estimated to be at least 900,000.

The difference between the total of the victims of the gassings cited in the above mentioned composition and the number of victims of the operation groups and the total of roughly 6 million victims of the Nazi persecution of the Jews results from the fact that a very high percentage of the victims have lost their lives through indirect extermination actions such as the method "destruction through work," bad treatment, under nourishment, epidemics, exhaustion during forced transportations etc.

About 120,000 people were killed through the Nazi "Euthanasia" actions.

 

The following sites include data and pictures concerning the gassing and cremation of Jews and others in Nazi concentration camps.

 

http://frank.mtsu.edu/~baustin/holocamp.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp

http://www.holocaust-history.org/dachau-gas-chambers/

http://isurvived.org/AUSCHWITZ_TheCamp.html

http://www.annefrank.dk/

http://pub43.bravenet.com/guestbook/show.php?usernum=3677571197

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/Ravensbruck.html

http://www.lastrefuge.co.uk/data/articles/nazi_death_camps-Auschwitz/auschwitz_page1.htm

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/poland/majdanek/majdanek02.html

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapBook/

http://www.rudyfoto.com/hol/gascham.html

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10005474

http://www.shamash.org/holocaust/photos/

http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/othercamps/auschwitzgaschambers.html

 

These figures are available for all to see at the US National Archives.

 

Charles Weinblatt

Csw2@bex.net

From: Michael [mailto:reporternotebook@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 10:04 PM
To: csw2@bex.net
Subject: Re: Dear Charles Weinblatt: Do you agree with the Holocaust denial laws?

 

 


Begin forwarded message:

From: GiuseppeFurioso@aol.com
Date: November 3, 2010 9:33:48 PM EDT
To: ReportersNotebook-owner@yahoogroups.com, jacobandesau@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [jacobandesau] Re: Dear Charles Weinblatt: Do you agree with the Holocaust denial laws?

 

Dear Mike,

                Could you forward the following to this dickhead:  Where are these '' Captured German war records that prove that millions of innocent Jews were systematically murdered by Nazi Germany...principally in gas chambers " ? If he, or anyone else could produce such documents, revisionism would suffer a fatal blow. The fact is that although some Four Hundred Tons of Nazi Germany's most intimate records were captured by the allies not a single document has been found that attests to a Holocaust. Perhaps Senor Smuck will say that the Nazis communicated in euphemisms e.g. '' final solution '' , '' special treatment '' when talking about their plan for wiping out the jews. Since they were talking to one another why was it necessary to write in euphemisms unless they knew from an early date they were going to lose the war and then have all their documents fall into enemy hands. I like Raul Hillburg's explanation that no direct orders were necessary because '' there was an incredible meeting of the minds'' among the perps, which if true represents the greatest and most extensive example of mental telepathy in human history.

       As for Mr. Weinblatts devotion to free speech  except in the case of '' Holocaust denial ''all I can say is that he sounds like a girl who is devoted to chastity but will only get laid on special occasions.

 

joe

 

 

 

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From: ReporterNotebook <RePorterNoteBook@Gmail.com>
To: reportersnotebook <RePortersNoteBook@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 1:01
Subject: Dear Charles Weinblatt: Do you agree with the Holocaust denial laws?

 

Dear Charles Weinblatt,

 

Do you agree with the Holocaust denial laws?

 

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Chuck Weinblatt <csw2@bex.net>

Date: Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 6:04 PM
Subject: RE: Academic Freedom and Holocaust Denial
To: ReporterNotebook <reporternotebook@gmail.com>

Yes.  European Holocaust laws protect Jews from bigots who did not learn from the Holocaust; it is necessary to prevent another genocide.  I dearly love free speech.  But, I would be in favor of the same type of laws against denial of the American genocide of Native Americans.  The blood of six million innocent Jewish men, women and children has not detracted Europeans from continued anti-Semitism.  In fact, Jew-hatred is on the rise today.  So, yes, I agree with the laws.  Even as a writer and published author, I agree.  I deplore censorship and I adore free speech.  I wish that the world would never require any law that inhibits free speech.  Yet, when I see that the same sentiments that led to the murder of my innocent family (because they were Jews) exist today in Europe, then I understand why such laws are necessary.  As long as there are people who deny that Nazi Germany murdered millions of innocent people, and those people promote their mendacity via public means (the Internet), then there will be a need to prevent them from spreading that poison to vulnerable minds. 

 

Captured German war records prove that millions of innocent Jews (and tens of thousands of other innocent people) were systematically exterminated by Nazi Germany - mostly in gas chambers. Those poor people were murdered because they did not fit into the Nazi vision for a pure Aryan society.  These facts have been proven repeatedly through countless thesis and dissertation research papers.  Virtually every PhD in History in the world will stake their career on these known Holocaust FACTS.  Despite this knowledge, Holocaust deniers ply their mendacious poison everywhere, especially with young people on the Internet. The deniers have only one agenda - to distort the truth in a way that promotes antagonism against the object of their hatred (Jews), or to deny the culpability of their ancestors and heroes (Germans). 

 

Museums and mandatory public education are appropriate tools to dispel bigotry, especially racial and ethnic hatred.  Books and films can also establish the veracity of genocides, such as recent Holocaust films.  They help to tell the true story of the perpetrators of genocide; and they reveal the abject terror, humiliation and degradation resulting from such blind loathing and prejudice.  We must disclose the cruelty and horror of genocide to combat the deniers' virulent and inaccurate historical revision.  By doing this, we protect vulnerable future generations from making the same mistakes. Yet, when people ignore genocide education, then we have no recourse but to enact laws that prevent the denial of such proven genocide.  I guarantee that millions of Jews perished in the Shoah.  I did not need to conduct five years of daily research to understand this.  But, it is no less a fact than the fact that the moon orbits the earth, or that gravity exists. 

 

Whenever we stand up to those who deny or minimize genocide we send a critical message to the world.  As we continue to live in an age of genocide and ethnic cleansing, we must repel the broken ethics of our ancestors, or risk a dreadful repeat of past transgressions.  A world that continues to allow genocide requires ethical remediation.  We must show the world that religious, racial, ethnic and gender persecution is wrong; and that tolerance is our progeny's only hope.  Only through such efforts can we reveal the true horror of genocide and promote the triumphant spirit of humankind.

 

Charles Weinblatt

Author, Jacob's Courage

 

 

 

From: ReporterNotebook [mailto:reporternotebook@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 5:16 PM
To: csw2@bex.net
Subject: Re: Academic Freedom and Holocaust Denial

 

Dear Charles Weinblatt,

 

Do you agree with the Holocaust denial laws?

 


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Michael Santomauro

253 W. 72nd Street

New York, NY 10023

 

Call anytime: 917-974-6367

 

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