(1) Obama defends war role while accepting peace prize
(2) Obama's Nobel 'a little early', says Dalai Lama
(3) Ha'aretz says U.S. officials face 'pro-Israel' background check - Stephen M. Walt
(4) American Jews eye Obama's 'anti-Israel' appointees
(5) Delegation of MEPs turned away from Gaza, by Israel, on 'security' grounds
(6) IDF unit to fight criticism on YouTube, Facebook and Twitter
(7) Netanyahu tying his own hands with Golan bill: binding himself with constitutional chains
(8) Mordechai Vanunu on Israel's nuclear blackmail - interview with Hesham Tillawi
(9) Mordechai Vanunu says Nazi Holocaust used as "propaganda" to blackmail the West
(1) Obama defends war role while accepting peace prize
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Fri, 11 Dec 2009
The United States President Barack Obama has delivered a robust defence of war while accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in Norway.
At a lavish ceremony in Oslo, the President told his audience that violent conflict would not be eradicated in his lifetime.
He said war is sometimes necessary and morally justified, defended the use of American military strength.
"Whatever mistakes we have made, the plain fact is this, the United States of America has helped underwrite global security for more than six decades with the blood of our citizens and the strength of our arms."
The debate over the war in Afghanistan followed the Mr Obama to Norway.
He acknowledged his role wartime leader, and defended US presence in Afghanistan.
"I come here with an acute sense of the cost of armed conflict, filled with difficult questions about the relationship between war and peace, and our effort to replace one with the other."
He reaffirmed that the US will begin withdrawing troops from Afghanistan in mid-2011, but says it will not be a precipitous drawdown.
(2) Obama's Nobel 'a little early', says Dalai Lama
Melbourne, December 11, 2009
Last Updated: 08:29 IST(11/12/2009)
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Nobel laureate the Dalai Lama called Barack Obama's controversial peace prize "a little early" as the US president used his acceptance speech to defend the war in Afghanistan.
The exiled Tibetan spiritual leader told Sky News that Obama was energetic and "very able" but admitted the peace prize, also handed out to Mother Teresa, Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela, may be slightly premature.
"I think if you are realistic, it may have been a little early," he said during a visit to Australia. "But it doesn't matter, I know Obama is a very able person."
Obama was revealed as this year's winner in October, nine months into his presidency, and received the award in Oslo just days after announcing 30,000 more troops to fight the Taliban.
Thousands of protesters joined demonstrations in the Norwegian capital on Thursday, chanting, "Yes, Yes, Yes We Can, Stop the War in Afghanistan," in a parody of Obama's election campaign slogan.
(3) Ha'aretz says U.S. officials face 'pro-Israel' background check - Stephen M. Walt
From: Sadanand, Nanjundiah (Physics Earth Sciences) <sadanand@mail.
Ha'aretz says U.S. officials face 'pro-Israel' background check
By Stephen M. Walt
December 09, 2009 Foreign Policy Dec. 02, 2009
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There is an amazing story in Ha'aretz today [http://www.haaretz.
Every appointee to the American government must endure a thorough background check by the American Jewish community.
In the case of Obama's government in particular, every criticism against Israel made by a potential government appointee has become a catalyst for debate about whether appointing "another leftist" offers proof that Obama does not truly support Israel."
The story goes on to rehearse what happened to Chas Freeman (whose appointment was derailed by the Israel lobby because he voiced a few mild criticisms of Israel's behavior) and reports that similar complaints are now being raised against the appointment of former Senator Chuck Hagel. Even more bizarrely, the Zionist Organization of America and other rightwing Jewish groups are complaining about the appointment of Hannah Rosenthal to direct the Office to Combat and Monitor Anti-Semitism. Why?
Apparently she's been involved with J Street and other "leftwing" organizations that ZOA et al deem insufficiently ardent in their support for the Jewish state, and has suggested that progressive forces need to be more vocal in advancing the peace process.
One has to feel a certain sympathy for Ms. Rosenthal, who is forced to defend her own appointment by telling an interviewer:
I love Israel. I have lived in Israel. I go back and visit every chance I can. I consider it part of my heart. And because I love it so much, I want to see it safe and secure and free and democratic and living safely."
These are fine sentiments, but isn't it odd that she has to defend her qualifications for a position in the U.S. government by saying how much she "loves" a foreign country? For an American official in her position, what matters is that she loves America, and that she believes anti-semitism is a hateful philosophy that should be opposed vigorously. Whether she loves Israel or France or Thailand or Namibia, etc., is irrelevant. (And yes, it's entirely possible to loathe anti-Semitism and not love Israel).
But the real lesson of all these episodes is the effect of this litmus test on the foreign policy community more broadly. Groups in the lobby target public servants like Freeman, Hagel, and Rosenthal because they want to make sure that no one with even a mildly independent view on Middle East affairs gets appointed. By making an example of them, they seek to discourage independent-
The result, of course, is the U.S. Middle East policy (and U.S. foreign policy more generally) is reserved for those who are either steadfastly devoted to the "special relationship" or who have been intimidated into silence. The result? U.S. policy remains in the hands of the same set of "experts" whose policies for the past seventeen years (or more) have been a steady recipe for failure. If a few more Americans read Ha'aretz, they might start to figure this out.
Stephen M. Walt is the Robert and Renée Belfer Professor of International Relations at Harvard University.
(4) American Jews eye Obama's 'anti-Israel' appointees
From: Sadanand, Nanjundiah (Physics Earth Sciences) <sadanand@mail.
By Natasha Mozgovaya
Haaretz, December 4, 2009
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Every appointee to the American government must endure a thorough background check by the American Jewish community.
In the case of Obama's government in particular, every criticism against Israel made by a potential government appointee has become a catalyst for debate about whether appointing "another leftist" offers proof that Obama does not truly support Israel.
A few months ago, boisterous protests by the American Jewish community helped foil the appointment of Chaz Freeman to chair the National Intelligence Council, citing his "anti-Israel leaning."
The next attempt to appoint an intelligence aide, in this case, former Republican senator Chuck Hagel, also resulted in vast criticism over his not having a pro-Israel record.
American Zionists are urging Obama to cancel Hagel's appointment because of what they call a long and problematic record of hostility toward Israel.
The president of the Zionist Organization of America, Morton A. Klein, described Hagel's nomination as such: "Any American who is concerned about Iran's drive to obtain nuclear weapons, maintaining the Israeli-U.S. relationship and supporting Israel in its legitimate fight to protect her citizens from terrorism should oppose this appointment."
Republican Jews have also protested Hagel's appointment, citing an incident in 2004 when Hagel refused to sign a letter calling on then-president George Bush to speak about Iran's nuclear program at the G8 summit that year.
In August of 2006, Hagel refused to sign a letter requesting the UN declare Hezbollah a terrorist organization.
In a speech at the conference of self-declared "pro-peace, pro-Israel" lobby J Street, Hagel spoke about his views on the issue of Israel and the Middle East.
"The United States' support for Israel need not be - nor should it be - an either-or proposition that dictates our relationships with our Arab allies and friends. The U.S. has a long and special relationship with Israel, but it must not come at the expense of our Arab relationships," Hagel said.
The latest round of heated debate has been over the nomination of Hannah Rosenthal to head the Office to Monitor and Combat Anti-Semitism in the Obama administration.
Rosenthal, who is the daughter of a Holocaust survivor, served as a Health Department regional director under the Clinton administration, and held positions in different left-leaning Jewish organizations.
Between 2000 and 2005, Rosenthal was the head of the Jewish Council for Public Affairs; she was also the executive director of the Chicago Foundation for Women. In recent years, she has served on the advisory board of the J Street lobby.
The president of Americans for Peace Now lauded Obama's appointment of Rosenthal. Even Anti-Defamation League chairman Abraham Foxman came out in support of Rosenthal's appointment.
"This appointment signals the continued seriousness of America?s resolve to fight anti-Semitism," Foxman said in a statement.
Shortly after the announcement of Rosenthal's nomination, conservative Jewish web sites began to attack her, some of them declaring that Obama appointed an anti-Israeli to fight anti-Semitism.
Rumors brewed that she had accused Israel of systemically strengthening anti-Semitism. Bloggers argued that her appointment would cause Jews and Israelis to cast doubt on Obama and his relationship with Israel.
In one of her articles, Rosenthal criticized conservative voices in the Jewish community who she accused of taking over the discourse regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
"It's a scary time, with people losing the ability to differentiate between a Jew, any Jew, and what's going on in Israel," Rosenthal said.
In an interview with the new online Jewish magazine, Tablet, Rosenthal said that she loves Israel.
"I have lived in Israel. I go back and visit every chance I can. I consider it part of my heart. And because I love it so much, I want to see it safe and secure and free and democratic and living safely," Rosenthal said
(5) Delegation of MEPs turned away from Gaza, by Israel, on 'security' grounds
From: Sadanand, Nanjundiah (Physics Earth Sciences) <sadanand@mail.
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Delegation of MEPs turned away from Gaza
Issued : Wednesday 9 December, 2009
Statement by Proinsias De Rossa MEP
Euro Candidate for the Dublin Area
Proinsias De Rossa, President of the European Parliament's Delegation for relations with the Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC), and leader of an official European Parliament (EP) delegation to the West Bank, Jerusalem and Gaza this week, has expressed serious concern at Israel's interference in the European Parliament's democratic right to develop relations with the democratically-
Mr De Rossa explained: "The cross-party delegation from the European Parliament was due to continue its programme with a visit to Gaza today (Wednesday), a visit which had been approved by the Israeli authorities. Israel had yesterday (Tuesday) afternoon granted final permission for all members of the delegation to travel.
"However, some three hours later, entry for all members of the delegation was rescinded 'on security grounds', without further explanation. We insist on a full explanation of the security risks claimed by Israel.
(6) IDF unit to fight criticism on YouTube, Facebook and Twitter
From: Sadanand, Nanjundiah (Physics Earth Sciences) <sadanand@mail.
Graphic Glimpses of West Bank Struggle on YouTube
By ROBERT MACKEY, NY Times Lede
DECEMBER 9, 2009
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Israel announced plans last week to use the Web to improve its image abroad in two ways: by setting up a new unit of the Israel Defense Forces devoted to fighting criticism on YouTube, Facebook and Twitter, and through what the Israeli newspaper Haaretz described as "an initiative by the Information and Diaspora Ministry to train people to represent Israel independently on the Internet."
While it is not yet clear exactly what form this government-sponsore
To take one example, last week amateur video of an Israeli settler driving his car over a prone Palestinian man — who had just been shot at a West Bank gas station after reportedly stabbing the settler's wife — was uploaded to the video-sharing site soon after it was broadcast on Israeli television.
The next day that graphic, disturbing footage, filmed at the Israeli settlement of Kiryat Arba, started to get more attention on the Web after it was featured in this English-language report from Al Jazeera that was posted on the broadcaster's YouTube channel:
Since the video starts after the stabbing attack on two settlers the Palestinian man was accused of, it is not surprising that supporters of the Israeli settlement project were unhappy to see it spread around the world via YouTube.
One day after that footage first appeared online, The Jerusalem Post reported that another graphic clip depicting an act of violence had been uploaded to YouTube. According to the Israeli newspaper, this video showed "a Palestinian female terrorist stabbing a civilian security guard at a West Bank checkpoint."
As The Post pointed out, this clip, uploaded in December, was not new:
In the video, filmed on October 25, the Palestinian, who allegedly asked to enter Israel via the Kalandiya checkpoint for medical treatment, is seen being examined by a Border Police officer. The officer finds a knife in her purse, and while he takes the purse aside, the woman pulls another blade from her trousers and stabs the civilian security guard standing by. The security guard, working for a private firm, was still recuperating from his moderate wounds on Wednesday.
The video seems to not be direct footage, but footage of a closed-circuit TV surveillance camera's output. The date "10/25/2009? appears faintly at the bottom of the screen early in the clip.
The Israeli newspaper reported that "An investigation was launched to find the source that leaked the video to YouTube." That language is not quite accurate, though, since YouTube is not a broadcaster or media organization that accepts leaks. Someone simply decided to upload this video to YouTube in the immediate aftermath of the small storm of controversy caused by the other video showing an attack on the West Bank. It is impossible to say if the video of the Palestinian attack was uploaded in response to the video of the Israeli attack. It may have been a sort of reply to the first video, or the timing may have been entirely coincidental.
What is certain is that, just as supporters of the Palestinian cause drew attention to the clip of the Israeli attack, supporters of the Israeli settlers shared and discussed and reposted the clip of the Palestinian attack.
The Israeli blogger and radio host Tamar Yonah embedded the video in a post headlined "Arab Woman Stabs Jew — Caught on video!" Ms. Yonah introduced the video this way:
A young Arab woman asks for medical treatment in Jerusalem and then stabs a Jewish security guard. [...] This is not new, where Muslim terrorists abuse Jewish good will, and then turn around and deadly and gruesome acts. They use ambulances as well to commit their dastardly deeds.
Netanyahu tying his own hands with Golan bill
(7) Netanyahu tying his own hands with Golan bill: binding himself with constitutional chains
From: Sadanand, Nanjundiah (Physics Earth Sciences) <sadanand@mail.
Netanyahu tying his own hands with Golan bill
By Aluf Benn, Ha'aretz, Dec. 9, 2009
The "Referendum Law" that the Knesset voted to advance Wednesday would restrict the government's freedom of action in negotiations with the Palestinians, Syria and even Lebanon by making it harder to cede East Jerusalem, the Golan Heights or even Shaba Farms, whether unilaterally or by agreement.
The bill creates an onerous ratification procedure for any agreement that involves ceding sovereign Israeli territory: approval by the cabinet, by an absolute majority of 61 MKs and finally by a referendum in which voters would be asked whether they are for or against the agreement. The referendum itself would be decided by a simple majority. Only if the Knesset approved an agreement by a majority of 80 MKs - as it did the treaty with Jordan, for instance - would the referendum requirement be waived.
The bill would also eliminate the "constitutional lacuna" that currently enables unilateral withdrawals from sovereign Israeli territory. Currently, a simple majority of the Knesset could reverse the annexation of all or part of the Golan, and a 61-MK majority would be enough to alter Jerusalem's municipal boundaries. But the bill would require a referendum on any cession of territory to which Israeli law has been applied, even a unilateral one.
Thus Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who once again called Wednesday for renewed talks with the Palestinians, is binding himself with constitutional chains. In Netanyahu's view, it is important that diplomatic agreements be supported by a majority of the public, and not just the coalition's majority in the Knesset. But he is also signaling the Syrians, the Palestinians and the international community that he will have trouble passing any significant concessions - and trying to strengthen his hand in the negotiations. In addition, he is thereby pressing his negotiating partners to close a deal quickly, before the bill becomes law.
The Knesset voted to advance this bill a day after the European Union declared that Jerusalem must be the capital of two states. This is the first time a major international player has asserted that part of Jerusalem must be the Palestinian capital.
The bill would cover any territory to which Israeli law has been applied - namely, East Jerusalem and the Golan. The latter also includes Shaba Farms, which Lebanon is demanding. Thus, it would even impede a withdrawal from outlying Arab neighborhoods of Jerusalem on the wrong side of the separation fence, where Israeli sovereignty is in practice rarely exercised.
However, it would not impede withdrawals from the West Bank or the village of Ghajar on the Lebanese border, as these are not under Israeli sovereignty.
The idea of a referendum on the Golan was first raised by Yitzhak Rabin in 1994, and was meant to free him from his preelection promise not to cede the Golan. Five years later, Ehud Barak promised that any agreement with the Syrians or Palestinians would be subject to a referendum. So far, however, no agreement with either has been reached, so the idea has never been put to the test.
(8) Mordechai Vanunu on Israel's nuclear blackmail - interview with Hesham Tillawi
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 05:37:49 +0500 From: "Iskandar Sahib" <iskandar38@hotmail.
Below is the transcript of an eye-opening interview that took place between peace activist Mordechai Vanunu and talk show host Hesham Tillawi on the television program Current Issues.
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TILLAWI. 'Well, I do believe that we have Mordechai Vanunu with us…Mordechai, are you with us?
VANUNU. Yes.
TILLAWI. Good Morning, I know that it is 4 o'clock in the morning there in Jerusalem. Folks, Mordechai Vanunu has spent 18 years in an Israeli jail for telling Israeli nuclear secrets. He was lured to Rome by Israeli agents and kidnapped and then sent back to Israel where he spent 18 yrs in prison and 11 of those years in solitary confinement. That is true, Mordechai?
VANUNU. Yes, that is right.
TILLAWI Now, Mordechai, I have a question for you. What was it that you really felt that you must tell the world about, what was it about the Israeli nuclear program that you felt to yourself, 'you know I cannot continue like this, I cannot remain silent on this, I have got to tell the world about it.' What was it?
VANUNU Well, the most important point is that it was the same situation that we have right now, namely that these people continue to lie and to cheat the world as well as their own citizens by denying the truth, by declaring that they do not have atomic weapons while at the same time I was working there helping to produce them. At that time there were more than 200 atomic weapons, in 1986, and it was at that time that they started to produce the most horrible of all weapons, the hydrogen bomb…all of this in secret, in lying and in cheating the world and all of its citizens. So I said to myself 'It is impossible to keep these secrets. I must report about them and to try and stop it.'
TILLAWI Mordechai, there are a lot of nations that have nuclear weapons. What is it about Israel having them that makes you so nervous?
VANUNU Because Israel wants to use them, to cause genocide and holocaust on other innocent citizens. It has always been a part of Israel's secret policy. And also by having them, Israel will use them as a threat to avoid making peace with the Arab world as well as imposing her policies on those peoples. As long as she has them, she will continue on in her policies of not making peace, of occupation and of neglecting the Palestinian suffering caused by the refugee camps that have existed for more than 50 years.
TILLAWI One of the Israeli professors said a few months ago that 'we have the nuclear capability of hitting every major European city,' is that true to your knowledge?
VANUNU Yes, it is true. They can bombard any city all over the world, and not only those in Europe but also those in the United States, and by this threat what they are doing is to send a secret message to any leader and to any government that they have the ability to use them aggressively and to blackmail them, to blackmail Europe and the United States, every where, in every state around the world. It was Europe and the United States who helped them get this power, and now that Israel has it, she is coming back and saying to them 'We will not obey any orders that you give us. No international law, no international agreement, no UN resolutions,' and all because of these atomic weapons that they have. ...
TILLAWI ... What made Mordechai Vanunu betray his country and then change his religion?
VANUNU Yes, this is a very good question and very important. You are right, it is not usual to have a person come to these hard conclusions. As far as my conversion, it started at the very early age of 15 or 16. I was raised in the Jewish religion and in a Jewish family. Israel and Judaism were considered as one nation, one big family, one tribe. I began criticizing and rejecting Judaism over the point of view that these Jews are teaching injustice through their Judaism. In the same way that Jesus Christ also criticized Judaism 2,000 years ago, I was unwilling to accept what they teach, and later converted to the opposite of Judaism. The Jewish tribe teaches that there is only one Chosen people of God. They teach of their superiority, taking literally word-by-word the writings in the old bible. And I decided therefore that after 2,000 years these ideas were nonsense. There are 6 billion people around the world, and all of them are equal, all are part of the human race. There is no such thing as a super race. We should all respect and love each other, and that was the beginning of my rejecting Judaism and my accepting of Christianity, of following the teachings of Jesus Christ and of accepting humanity. I am not a religious man, I am not going to become a priest. I did all of this for my humanity and for my beliefs. So, I chose my own way and began criticizing the Jewish faith. Those who teach Judaism run the lives of those under them, telling them what they must do every hour of every day, issuing many orders about everything, from waking up in the morning to going to sleep, but at the same time they do not teach them to respect other human beings, to accept non-Jews and to believe that non-Jews are like them. They teach that only the Jews are the chosen people. So, this is Judaism, a collection of primitive traditions thousands of years old that have not changed. The world has changed in the last 2,000 years and the Jewish people need to accept and understand this change, and especially if they want a democratic country. You cannot have a state and run it as they did 2,000 years ago. They came to Palestine in the name of the Bible and in the name of their god and took this land that was promised to them thousands of years ago. In the name of this god, they took the land, expelled the people and gave them hard, cruel, barbaric lives for the last 60 years. This way of thinking, this faith cannot exist within this new age, and it was this that also led me to expose Israel's nuclear secrets.
TILLAWI Mordechai, you have been living amongst the Palestinians for a while now. What do you think, are they the terrorists that we have all been hearing about?
VANUNU I have been living amongst the Palestinians now for 15 months, but I have been following the Palestinian situation now since the 1980's. Now I am here living among them, watching them, meeting with them, eating with them, enjoying life with them and seeing how the Israelis have succeeded in portraying them all over the world as terrorists. But this is not true. They are very peaceful people and lovers of peace. ...
TILLAWI So, why are we after Iran then to open its doors to inspections, but no one is asking Israel to do the same? Why is that?
VANUNU This is a very strange situation that has been developed and accepted by the Western states since the 1960's. It goes back about 40 years. My view is that Europe and America are and have been under a long-term agenda of blackmail by the Israelis. In the first case, the Israelis constantly bring up the Holocaust and what happened to the Jews during WWII, blaming the West for it and then using this as the justification for possessing nuclear weapons as a way of preventing this from ever happening again. ...
(9) Mordechai Vanunu says Nazi Holocaust used as "propaganda" to blackmail the West
The World Today (ABC Radio, Australia)
Wednesday, 29 September , 2004
Reporter: Jonathan Lucraft
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MORDECHAI VANUNU: Maybe the real fear is that my free spirit, my free belief to express my views in politics, in everything, not only nuclear secrets, I have many interesting views and I'm telling them without fear and expressing that to anyone in all the world, in all the media, and that is not good for Israel.
They don't like it, and also, the Israel Government and state have teached all the world, especially the west, Europe, United States, Australia, Canada, they teach them to fear and now to be under blackmail by Israel propaganda of Holocaust and all this propaganda.
Transcript: This is a transcript from The World Today. The program is broadcast around Australia at 12:10pm on ABC Local Radio. http://www.abc.
The World Today - Wednesday, 29 September , 2004 12:25:06 Reporter: Jonathan Lucraft
ELEANOR HALL: Mordechai Vanunu made headlines around the world when he blew the whistle on Israel's secret nuclear weapons program in the mid-1980s. The Israeli nuclear technician was arrested soon after in a Mossad operation, was tried in secret, convicted of treason and spent 18 years in prison, 11 of them in solitary confinement. In April this year he was released from prison, but his freedom has remained restricted, with Israeli authorities forbidding him from speaking to foreigners. Despite this, Mr Vanunu this morning gave his first interview to an Australian media outlet, speaking to the community radio station, Radio Adelaide's Jonathan Lucraft.
MORDECHAI VANUNU: The restrictions are not working and unreasonable and not according to the human rights and the democratic system and they will finish them in six months – at least the restriction not to speak to foreigners and not to travel really inter-state.
JONATHAN LUCRAFT: Are you taking a chance by talking to us?
MORDECHAI VANUNU: I'm not taking a chance, I'm making a very good calculation and according to the human rights and freedom of speech that everyone as a human being should have and I'm exercising it and I believe the Israel Government and Israel organisations are realising that what they decided is not good. They will not do anything wrong with my speaking to you either.
JONATHAN LUCRAFT: When the restrictions are lifted, what will you do then?
MORDECHAI VANUNU: If they will let me go I would leave Israel immediately, I would like to see the world, to exercise my freedom. If they will not let me go, let me speak, then I will speak much more to the media and to the people around the world and here.
JONATHAN LUCRAFT: Now, 18 years in a Mossad prison, 11 of those years in solitary confinement. How did you fight the effect of those years on your mind?
MORDECHAI VANUNU: The effect was very hard and strong, but I was firm and strong from the beginning to protect my freedom, my free will, my humanity, that was my struggle from the beginning.
The power organisation of Israel gives what they can to fight me, to cause me some harm, damages in health, mind, and they succeed little bit, but I survived and I am now free, but it was very hard, a very difficult time and I wish no one would suffer what I suffered, and then when I speak to you and try to be human being like everyone.
JONATHAN LUCRAFT: Do you feel though that those years in solitary confinement had an effect on you?
MORDECHAI VANUNU: I think no. The only effect is maybe some part of my health has been damaged. We see in the future how my health will react and how my health will survive in the next future.
JONATHAN LUCRAFT: Now, you converted from Judaism to Christianity. Did this help, or did it make it harder for your captors?
MORDECHAI VANUNU: My conversion to Christianity was in Sydney, Australia, in 1986, it was before this case. So when I find myself in prison I decided my Christianity is going to be my way to freedom, my boundary, my defence against Israel's power organisation, brainwash or psychologic warfare. So in some way, in many ways it helped me very much.
JONATHAN LUCRAFT: Do you believe that you're a traitor to Israel?
MORDECHAI VANUNU: Five million Jews are regarding me as a traitor, but six billion people around the world think me as a hero and a good man who bring the message to all the human beings that we should survive and prevent the use of nuclear weapons and to prevent the nuclear preparations and to prevent nuclear war in the future.
JONATHAN LUCRAFT: Now, any knowledge that you had of the Israeli nuclear weapons program is now, it's nearly 20 years old and it's well out of date. Why do you think the Israeli Government is still, apparently, frightened of you?
MORDECHAI VANUNU: Maybe the real fear is that my free spirit, my free belief to express my views in politics, in everything, not only nuclear secrets, I have many interesting views and I'm telling them without fear and expressing that to anyone in all the world, in all the media, and that is not good for Israel.
They don't like it, and also, the Israel Government and state have teached all the world, especially the west, Europe, United States, Australia, Canada, they teach them to fear and now to be under blackmail by Israel propaganda of Holocaust and all this propaganda.
Now come a man and speaking from inside about their crimes, their mistakes, their stupid policy of nuclear weapons and all the world's watching all this, and that is their real concern.
ELEANOR HALL: Mordechai Vanunu speaking to Radio Adelaide's Jonathan Lucraft.
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