Subject: For Michael Santomauro from Paul Grubach--please post this!!
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Paul Grubach
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Subject: Paul Grubach's Erroneous View of Christianity, Judaism and and the Old Testament
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Dear Michael,
Thanks for posting Michael Hoffman's response to my article, "Christianity, Judaism, and German National Socialism..." Please post my first rebuttal, which follows.
Michael Hoffman's Erroneous Views
It is Michael Hoffman that is confused, not Paul Grubach. Let me give one simple example. This is not even the best example, just the simplest to explain in this short missive.
Hoffman writes: "First and foremost among his errors is his [Paul Grubach's] identification of the Talmud and Judaism with the Old Testament."
There is no error here on my part: it is Mike Hoffman who is in error. The Talmud and Judaism are in fact connected with and identified with the Old Testament. Technically speaking, the Talmud is a commentary on the Pentateuch (the first five books of the Bible), as Richard Siegel and Carl Rheims point out in The Jewish Almanac.. As a Professor of Religion at Syracuse University, James G. Williams, pointed out in his essay in Introduction to the Study of Religion (p.96): "In the Jewish understanding of Scripture as it evolved in the 'Talmudic' period (ca. 200 B.C.-500 A.D.), two features stand out: (1) the distinction and interrelation of law and prophecy, and (2) identification of preexistent wisdom wisdom with Torah [the first five books of the Bible]." The Talmud and Judaism are in fact identified with and connected with the Old Testament, and it is not just Jews who realize it: Williams is a Gentile.
When I have the time, I will respond to Mr. Hoffman far more completely.
Paul Grubach
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Subject: Paul Grubach's Erroneous View of Christianity, Judaism and and the Old Testament
Letter to the EditorInconvenient Historyhttp://www.inconvenienthistory.com/archive/2010/volume_2/number_3/christianity_judaism_and_german_national_socialism.php
Paul Grubach's Erroneous View of Christianity, Judaism and and the Old Te stament
By Michael Hoffman, Sept. 6, 2010
Paul Grubach's essay "Christianity, Judaism and German National Socialism: Revisionism Confronts the Theology of Susannah Heschel," is wrong on fundamental points and generally an exercise in confusion.
First and foremost among his errors is his identification of the Talmud and Judaism with the Old Testament. This is the rabbinic claim and he accepts it at face value. He imagines Judaism to be what the mendacious rabbis say it is - a monotheism, Biblically based, free of Gnosticism, Hellenistic paganism and Near Eastern religions. He ascribes all of the latter to Christianity, not Judaism!
"Gnosticism, Hellenistic paganism and Near Eastern religions" is a litany which is a good working description of Judaism and a defective and ridiculous caricature of Christianity.
Any paganism Mr. Grubach find s in Christianity is not found in Jesus Christ or the New Testament. These are later corruptions of the church, mostly added under rabbinic influence.
Mr. Grubach claims Christianity came from Judaism but he never defines Judaism. By Judaism does he mean the Old Testament religion of ancient Israel and its prophets? Or by Judaism does he denote the Pharisees and their Mishnah, Talmud and Midrash? In some cases he seems to assert the former. More often he asserts the latter. Judaism supplants and nullifies the Old Testament and represents a radical departure from Scripture and in fact constitutes a new religion.
Jesus Christ was the fulfillment of the Old Testament. He came to fulfill the true, Old Testament law of God, as He Himself said. Judaism arose with the Pharisees, as a subversion of the Old Testament religion, substituting a theology centered on worship of the Judaic male for the worship of Yahweh God.
Mr. Grubach is unaware that the Old Testament, as reflected in the writings of the prophet Isaiah, for example, is anti-Jewish. Isaiah declared that Israel had "unclean lips." The Talmud states that for this supposedly offensive statement, Isaiah the prophet was rightly killed.
In truth, the Old Testament is replete with attacks on Israel and warnings of the terrible fate that awaited these wayward people if they did not reform. National Socialist and neo-pagan nationalist right wing groups have for many decades stubbornly clung to the legend that rabbinic Judaism is the Old Testament religion and that the Old Testament is a book of crowning racial-Jewish chauvinism.
By way of correction, if Mr. Grubach is too busy to read this writer's book Judaism Discovered, he can freely peruse the following brief article, "The Truth About the Talmud: http://talmudical.blogspot.com/
Michael HoffmanCoeur d'Alene, Idaho
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Michael Santomauro
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