Dec 16, 2010

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From: Fredrick Toben <noreply-comment@blogger.com>
Date: Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:38 AM


Fredrick Toben has left a new comment on the post "What "Revisionism" is all about – A Chat with Fred...":

1. I'm just passing by because I'm placing stuff on my website www.toben.biz, especially the 12-point Butz item, and the AIDS matter, which reminds me of how that fraud established itself into a Ponzi scheme, as did the Holocaust-Shoah decades ago.
2. I like the way Robert Muehlenkamp huffs-and-puffs-and-bluffs his way through responses without realizing that he has to prove his case while Revisionists do not have to prove anything.
3. Unfortunately his sneering at and slandering anyone who disagrees with his opinions reduces his blog to a shouting match - most uncivilized, and I understand why Revisionists will not waste their time in engaging with this kind of uncivilized exchange.
4. It still amazes me how so many Germans went from national Socialism to national masochism, and blindly embraced this rubbish contained in the 'Holocaust-Shoah' narrative.
5. Now Robbo, mate, let me see your response to Butz's 12 points. Should be interesting. And, just for clarification purposes, could you please send me a photo of the homicidal gas chamber at Auschwitz?
Thanks mate.
Fredrick

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Roberto Muehlenkamp has left a new comment on the post "What "Revisionism" is all about – A Chat with Fred...": 

1. I'm just passing by because I'm placing stuff on my website www.toben.biz, especially the 12-point Butz item, and the AIDS matter, which reminds me of how that fraud established itself into a Ponzi scheme, as did the Holocaust-Shoah decades ago. 

Having new hallucinations, Mr. Töben? 

2. I like the way Robert Muehlenkamp huffs-and-puffs-and-bluffs his way through responses without realizing that he has to prove his case while Revisionists do not have to prove anything. 

Actually "my" case is not mine and has been proven long ago (Mr. Töben obviously hasn't been paying attention to what historiography and criminal justice have done in the past decades), whereas "Revisionist" charlatans have failed not only to produce substantial challenges to the historical record but also and more importantly to produce an evidence-backed alternative account. The position that they don't have to prove anything is a very comfortable one, but also one that absolutely stinks. 

3. Unfortunately his sneering at and slandering anyone who disagrees with his opinions reduces his blog to a shouting match - most uncivilized, and I understand why Revisionists will not waste their time in engaging with this kind of uncivilized exchange.

Pointless whining about what this over-sensitive promoter of hate propaganda (who is obviously too feeble to take hard criticism) lamely calls "sneering" and "slandering", as an excuse for not producing arguments he doesn't have. Where have I seen that before? 

i4. It still amazes me how so many Germans went from national Socialism to national masochism, and blindly embraced this rubbish contained in the 'Holocaust-Shoah' narrative. 

Blindness is all in the "Revisionist" camp, actually. Understandably so, as they have nothing but faith there to cling to. As to Mr. Töben's "national masochism" remark, I wonder if he applies the same crappy reasoning to inhabitants of the former Soviet Union who are honest about the crimes of Lenin and Stalin, or to US citizens who condemn what people from their country did over Tokio and Hiroshima, at My Lai and at other places of sad memory. Do you, Mr. Töben? 

5. Now Robbo, mate, let me see your response to Butz's 12 points. Should be interesting. 

Apart from being a prolific producer of hot air and little else, you haven't been paying attention again, Mr. Töben. Look here

And, just for clarification purposes, could you please send me a photo of the homicidal gas chamber at Auschwitz?
Thanks mate.Fredrick


After you have specified which of the homicidal gas chambers at AB you mean (I hope you're not so ignorant as to assume that there was only one) and explained why one should expect such photo to necessarily exist, I might give it a try. 

Ah, and I'm not your "mate". I don't remember us having kept pigs together. 

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