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Mar 17, 2010

Did you hear about Abe Foxman’s racist tirade?

 


Abe Foxman's League of Extraordinary Hypocrites

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Did you hear about Abe Foxman's racist tirade?  Get a load of this: "We are shocked and stunned at the Administration's tone and public dressing down of Israel,"Anti-Defamation League director Abraham Foxman said in a statement. "We cannot remember an instance when such harsh language was directed at a friend and ally of the United States." This was his response to Vice President Joe Biden's condemnation of Israel's plan to construct 1,600 more homes for Jewish settlers in disputed East Jerusalem.

Have you ever heard such racism directed at the administration of our first black President?  My God, he practically called him the N-word.  Maybe he forgot to read the opening paragraph of his own report entitled"Rage Grows in America" which states "Since the election of Barack Obama as president, a current of anti-government hostility has swept across the United States, creating a climate of fervor and activism with manifestations ranging from incivility in public forums to acts of intimidation and violence."

Looks like dishonest Abe is guilty of the very same anti-Obama rhetoric that he levels against members of the Tea Party movement, "Birthers", and so-called conspiracy theorists.

Hasn't he been watching the news?  Does he not know that all criticism of the Obama administration stems from a deep-seated anger and hatred of blacks? Perhaps he needs to be reminded of the accusations of the mentally ill actress Jeanine Garofalo who, during an interview with MSNBC's Keith Olbermann, hatefully described town hall protestors as racist rednecks who hate black people. Or how about former president Jimmy Carter who stated that criticism of Barack Obama shows that there is an "inherent feeling" in America that a black man should not be President.

So what are we to think?  Does Abe Foxman pose a threat to Obama and his administration?  Far be it from me to level those charges.  But if we are to believe the latest report issued by the Simon Weisenthall Center that equates those who question the government as racists and terrorists then I suppose we would be justified in coming to that conclusion.

But I guess everybody is a terrorist these days, aren't they?  Simply standing in the vicinity of someone espousing radical viewpoints is enough for someone to level the" guilty by association" charge at you.  If someone visits your website and posts racist rants or attends your Tea Party function flying a Nazi flag, that is enough evidence for some to accuse you of sharing the same brain.  Well, using that same criteria, I suppose we can level the same accusations right back at the ADL and Abe Foxman for their association with known racists and criminals. Consider this page from the ADL website:

http://www.adl.org/LEARN/columns/Carona.asp?LEARN_Cat=Resources&LEARN_SubCat=OTB

It is an article by former Orange County (California) Sheriff Michael S. Carona.  There is a flattering biography at the end of the page that exalts his achievements and concludes by stating:

In 2002 he was appointed by President George W. Bush to serve on the Emergency Response Senior Advisory Committee for the Homeland Security Council. Reporting to Director of Homeland Security Tom Ridge, Sheriff Carona is one of only fifteen members from the United States and is the only Sheriff on the Committee.

What they don't tell you is that this disgraced, racist scumbag is now a convicted felon who is staring down a five-year prison sentence for witness tampering.  What they don't tell you is that this former Bush appointee is on secret FBI recordings using the word "n_gger" repeatedly and dubbing his penis as "The Little Sheriff".  And that's not the only corrupt, racist ex-cop whom Foxman has ties.  Tim Carroll, a former San Diego Sheriff's detective was once in charge of security for the ADL's annual convention.  This is a guy who is on record for stating that he would like to see "all illegal aliens shot" and "all the n_ ggers sent back to Africa on a banana boat." So, Mr. Foxman, if you would have us believe that you are known by the company you keep, then am I to assume that you too are a racist bigot?  I'm sure you would deny the accusation.  But don't try to deny the fact that racism is something that can be found to exist in every single ethnic group in America—even your own.  Want proof?  Try these racist rantings on for size…

"Obama deserves to get shot!"

"White power! F_ck the N_ ggers!"

"We're coming for you, Obama!"

Are these the declarations of white Christian Americans dissatisfied by Obama policies?  NO!  These are the hate-fueled anti-Obama slurs propagated by American Jews visiting Jerusalem in June 2009.

Don't believe me?  See for yourself.  The following link will take you to Max Blumenthal's video entitled"Feeling the Hate in Jerusalem":

http://mondoweiss.net/2009/06/max-blumenthal-feeling-the-hate-in-jerusalem-on-eve-of-obamas-cairo-address.html

But don't pay any attention to those remarks Mr. And Mrs. law enforcement. You wouldn't want to be accused of being an anti-Semite, would you? Besides,  you've got more important fish to fry;  like that soccer mom who lost her son in Iraq.  You know, that woman hoisting a big sign that says "No More Wars for Israel".  That thing could be a dangerous weapon if not handled properly.  It's got very pointy corners and just might put someone's eye out.

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Martin Van Creveld and the wall

 


From: Fredrick Toben <toben@toben.biz>
Date: Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:22 PM



Broadcast: 20/03/2002

Reporter: Jennifer Byrne

 

Professor Martin van Creveld, of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem is Israel's most prominent military historian. In this interview with Jennifer Byrne he claims that despite the recent increase in Israel's military operations, the huge Israeli defence forces will inevitably lose to the Palestinians.

Transcript

 

Byrne: Thanks for joining us tonight on Foreign Correspondent. How has it come to this, Martin... how is it that the mighty Israeli army – one of the world's most powerful - with its helicopter gunships, with its tanks, with it's missiles, can be losing to this relatively small, relatively under-armed if fanatical group of Palestinians?

Van Creveld: The same thing has happened to the Israeli army as happened to all the rest that have tried over the last sixty years. Basically it's always a question of the relationship of forces. If you are strong, and you are fighting the weak for any period of time, you are going to become weak yourself. If you behave like a coward then you are going to become cowardly – it's only a question of time. The same happened to the British when they were here... the same happened to the French in Algeria... the same happened to the Americans in Vietnam... the same happened to the Soviets in Afghanistan... the same happened to so many people that I can't even count them.

Byrne: : Martin you used the word 'cowardly' yet what we've seen tonight – these commando units, the anti-terrorist squads – these aren't cowardly people.

Van Creveld: I agree with you. They are very brave people... they are idealists... they want to serve their country and they want to prove themselves. The problem is that you cannot prove yourself against someone who is much weaker than yourself. They are in a lose/lose situation. If you are strong and fighting the weak, then if you kill your opponent then you are a scoundrel... if you let him kill you, then you are an idiot. So here is a dilemma which others have suffered before us, and for which as far as I can see there is simply no escape. Now the Israeli army has not by any means been the worst of the lot. It has not done what for instance the Americans did in Vietnam... it did not use napalm, it did not kill millions of people. So everything is relative, but by definition, to return to what I said earlier, if you are strong and you are fighting the weak, then anything you do is criminal.

Byrne: : You are a military historian, but let's face it the Prime Minister was a general... how could General Sharon – Prime Minister Sharon – be getting it so wrong, by your analysis?

Van Creveld: It's not a question of personalities, it's a question of the balance of forces. I'll use a metaphor that I'll take from Lao-tzu – the Chinese sage who lived about 2,400 years ago – 'a sword put into salt water will rust' – it is only a question of time. And this is happening to the Israeli army and to the Israeli society, almost regardless of who is leading it.

Byrne: : Are they losing, or have they lost, in your opinion?

Van Creveld: No they have not yet lost, but they are as far as I can see, well on the way to losing, which is why Israel over the last few weeks has been positively begging the Palestinians for a ceasefire. We have arrived at the point where, if you will, like Johnson in Vietnam, we are constantly asking the other side for a ceasefire, and the other side either will or will not respond as it pleases him – the reason being of course that they have so much less to lose.

Byrne: : The reason being also, in a sense, that it's what isn't about, isn't it? A ceasefire would provide security for the Israelis, which is what they want, but it would not provide statehood for the Palestinians, which is what they want.

Van Creveld: Exactly. The other side will definitely not have a ceasefire without some considerable political achievement. If I were Arafat and the Palestinians, I would not put an end to this intafada, because the way I see it, from the first day of the first intafada they have been winning.

Byrne: : What options does the Israeli army have, do you think?

Van Creveld: Nothing will work. 

Byrne: : Nothing at all? Do you think there's no change of strategy?

Van Creveld: No. There is one thing that can be done – and that is to put and end to the situation whereby we are the strong fighting the weak, because that is the most stupid situation in which anybody can be.

Byrne: : And how do you do that?

Van Creveld: Exactly. How do you do that. You do that by A, waiting for a suitable opportunity... B, doing whatever it takes to restore the balance of power between us and the Palestinians... C, removing 90% of the causes of the conflict, by pulling out... and D, building a wall between us and the other side, so tall that even the birds cannot fly over it.... so as to avoid any kind of friction for a long long time in the future.

Byrne: : Well, that's a tall list. Let's start with the last one – the wall... I mean, when I was there last month people were talking about a wall but you're seriously saying this is an option, to build a gigantic wall.... what.... on the old green line, basically – there's Gaza – there's the West Bank – and there's Israel proper, and they shall never be combined?

Van Creveld: "Never" is too much of a word. Nothing lasts forever. But history proves that walls work. The Roman wall – the Limus(?) – worked for hundreds of years... the Great Chinese Wall worked, not forever, but for hundreds of years... the wall in Korea has been working for fifty years... the wall between Turks and Greeks in Cyprus is working.... the Berlin Wall worked beautifully.... Unfortunately, the Israeli army insists against all military logic on being present on both sides of the wall. We could formally finish the problem at least in Gaza, in 48 hours, by getting out and building a proper wall. And then of course, if anybody tries to climb over the wall we kill him.

Byrne: : What about the many thousands of extremely belligerent Israeli settlers that would be on the wrong side of the wall?

Van Creveld: If it were up to me, I would tell those people – and you're quite right, many of them are quite belligerent – look, ladies and gentlemen, you have been magnificent, you have served us well, you have protected us all those years, but this is coming to an end. If you choose to stay, it's your problem – you are on your own. My guess is that 95% of them will come home.

Byrne: J: What about another scenario, which has been much discussed in recent months – which is one of full military solution? Basically, the Israeli army just goes in... it doesn't build a wall – it basically blows up the Palestinian home... razes the camps... stops, as it might say, pussyfooting around, and it's "curtains"?

Van Creveld: Look... a home that has been demolished offers even better shelter than a home that stands intact. The Americans in Vietnam tried it. They killed between two-and-a-half and three million Vietnamese. I don't see that it helped them much.

Byrne: : Martin, just personally... can you bear the thought of living in Jerusalem behind a wall – as the only way to be safe?

Van Creveld: Quite to the contrary – I came to live in Jerusalem in 1964... three years before the 1967 war. There actually was a wall, and life was wonderful. Nothing ever happened. Jerusalem was the quietest, safest place on earth. More than that, between 1957 and 1967 the number of Israelis who lost their lives as a result of enemy action was just thirty-five. Now we pray for a week in which we shall not lose thirty-five people.

Byrne: : Martin van Creveld, thank you very much for joining us tonight. Thank you.

Van Creveld: Thank you. Bye.

http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/stories/s511530.htm

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_van_Creveld

 




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Israel: THE “SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP” IS DEAD

 

From: <jimwdean@aol.com>

Date: Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Michael, 

An important piece here. Gordon is a prolific writer and God knows how he still does his work. He's a long time military and security consultant...spent some years teaching Russian and Chinese history, has an army of Intel contacts, much more than me, and is well known by all the retired and current brass of Pakistan. He had lunch with the head of ISI a couple of weeks ago...and his Paki TV appearances set ratings records. He did a ten day dual trip with Jeff Gates...a kind of Butch and Sundance thing.
 
 
 

GORDON DUFF: U.S. TELLS ISRAEL: "YOU ARE UNDERMINING AMERICA, ENDANGERING TROOPS"

March 16, 2010 by Gordon Duff · 51 Comments 

THE "SPECIAL RELATIONSHIP" IS DEAD

LEARN SOME OF THE "WHY" BEING KEPT FROM YOU

By Gordon Duff STAFF WRITER/Senior Editor

Vice President Joe Biden, Secretary of State Clinton and Joint Chief's Chairman Mike Mullen have all recently visited Israel on two issues, reliable information that Israel was planning an attack on Iran, a plan designed to push America into a war our leaders believe is both wrong and likely to risk a global nuclear confrontation with Russia and the building of a massive housing project on the Arab side of Jerusalem in violation of numerous agreements, a project that is likely to cause a spike in world terrorism and send thousands of new fighters to Afghanistan to face American forces there.

This is the worst point in the history of the relationship between the U.S. and Israel since the founding of that nation in 1948 but these are not the only reasons, not these and the arrogant and intractable attitude of Israel's leaders nor being caught in lie after lie, lies told to their financial backer and closest ally, the United States.  Here is some background on CENTOM Commander, General Petraeus' shocking briefing:

On Jan. 16, two days after a killer earthquake hit Haiti, a team of senior military officers from the U.S. Central Command (responsible for overseeing American security interests in the Middle East), arrived at the Pentagon to brief Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Adm. Michael Mullen on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The team had been dispatched by CENTCOM commander Gen. David Petraeus to underline his growing worries at the lack of progress in resolving the issue. The 33-slide, 45-minute PowerPoint briefing stunned Mullen. The briefers reported that there was a growing perception among Arab leaders that the U.S. was incapable of standing up to Israel, that CENTCOM's mostly Arab constituency was losing faith in American promises, that Israeli intransigence on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict was jeopardizing U.S. standing in the region…

 "Everywhere they went, the message was pretty humbling," a Pentagon officer familiar with the briefing says. "America was not only viewed as weak, but its military posture in the region was eroding." But Petraeus wasn't finished: two days after the Mullen briefing, Petraeus sent a paper to the White House requesting that the West Bank and Gaza (which, with Israel, is a part of the European Command — or EUCOM), be made a part of his area of operations.  The Mullen briefing and Petraeus's request hit the White House like a bombshell… pressing Israel once again on the settlements issue, sending Mitchell on a visit to a number of Arab capitals and dispatching Mullen for a carefully arranged meeting with the chief of the Israeli General Staff, Lt. General Gabi Ashkenazi. … Certainly, it was thought, Israel would get the message.

Israel didn't. When Vice President Joe Biden was embarrassed by an Israeli announcement that the Netanyahu government was building 1,600 new homes in East Jerusalem, the administration reacted. But no one was more outraged than Biden who, according to the Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronoth, engaged in a private, and angry, exchange with the Israeli Prime Minister:

 "This is starting to get dangerous for us," Biden reportedly told Netanyahu. "What you're doing here undermines the security of our troops who are fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. That endangers us and it endangers regional peace." Yedioth Ahronoth went on to report: "The vice president told his Israeli hosts that since many people in the Muslim world perceived a connection between Israel's actions and US policy, any decision about construction that undermines Palestinian rights in East Jerusalem could have an impact on the personal safety of American troops fighting against Islamic terrorism." The message couldn't be plainer: Israel's intransigence could cost American  lives.

The deterioration started long before this and can be tracked by changing perceptions in the Obama administration whose leaders are heavily "pro-Israel" but lack the extremist convictions of the Zionist/extremist group that surrounded President Bush.  When Obama took office, even Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, one of the most prominent Israeli proponents in the country, had become aware of the extent of Israeli involvement in areas that had taken the "special relationship" into an area of disaster for the United States.  This is what was discovered:

  • The military and intelligence organizations in the United States had been penetrated by Israel, not only through our normal broad partnership but the planting of "moles," many from the Christian Zionist community who were taking direction from Israel and not the United States.  The result wasn't just limited to falsification of intelligence, both leading to endless phony terror alerts and non-existent enemies but to skewing operations in a manner to guarantee their failure with significant American cost in both lives and money.
  • The massive spy network uncovered by Sibel Edmonds had been tracked, almost entirely to Israel.  Edmonds had been silenced by National Security Letters issued by John Ashcroft, leading Christian Zionist in the Bush Administration and constant "private" visitor to Israel.  After 6 years of spying at the highest levels of the White House, Department of State, Congress and the Pentagon, the network grew even more, accessing nearly all top US intelligence and selling it on the open market. 
  • Most disastrous of the stolen intelligence was the data on the new JSF, the F35 Joint Strike Fighter.  All data on this new $300 billion dollar project fell into Israeli hands in 2008, information that may have turned the air superiority fighter meant to rule the skies for the next 30 years into a "target sled."  This is the biggest intelligence attack on the US since the Pollard/Israeli scandal.  Pollard, an American Jew reputedly associated with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, stole America's battle plans for the defense of NATO, our entire spy/surveillance network plans and full ultra-top secret detailed plans that could have negated America's nuclear deterrent during the most dangerous times of the Cold War.  Pollard's information was sold to the Soviets by Israel, information that could have let Russia win World War III.
  • The Israeli attack on Gaza was timed to an American change of administration and done without consultation.  Broad intelligence sources indicate that the attacks were not in relatiation to any terrorist activity but are spoken of "behind closed doors" by top US officials as ethnic cleansing not unlike the issues that brought NATO into conflict with Serbia.  The systematic nature of the attack, destroying water-treatment, schools, hospitals, food storage, power generation and the massive loss of life, especially among children, has soured many in the Obama camp on Israel
  • Israel's use of the Jewish lobby in the US to hold up President Obama's domestic agenda and their use of Jewish controlled media to embarrass the President has caused more bitterness.  With Jewish controlled/owned Fox, CNN (Wolf Blitzer, formerly of the Jerusalem Post), ABC, CBS, NBC networks and other major news sources all working in concert against, particularly President Obama's health care initiative, Israel is seen as "flexing its muscle" even more.  The believed rationale is the removal of all non-Jews from Israel, dead or alive, with a powerless US government paying the bills and fighting the massive terrorist backlash for generations.
  • The Israeli agenda of working with India to destabilize Pakistan, organize terror attacks there and, less publicly known, in Afghanistan and Iraq, some against American targets, can no longer be ignored by the current administration, Secretary Gates, General's Mullen and Petraeus.  Israeli's "dynamic duo," Senators McCain and Lieberman, though still holding important committee assignments on the hill, are being held increasingly in disrepute in the United States.  When Israel sends these two on errands, it no longer carries the weight and power of the United States as it had during the Bush administation.
  • Re-examination of a number of terrorist attacks during the Bush administation, particularly in Europe, show a clear "Mossad footprint," something adding credence to the hypothesis that the "war on terror" and intelligence failures in Iraq had been heavily influenced by Israeli sources, many of the same individuals tied to the Edmonds spy affair, many close to, not only Israel but President Bush and Vice President Cheney.  Recently a secret El Al/Israel flight from JFK in New York has been discovered, a flight authorized by top Bush officials, one previously kept secret and now being tied covering up 9/11 intelligence failures.  The El Al Boeing 747 left only hours after the 9/11 attack, at a time all air traffic in the United States was grounded.

With nearly all Arab/Muslim governments aligned behind the US, including a softening of tensions with Iran, Israel feels it must act quickly.  However, the US no longer has any strategic requirement for a relationship with Israel.  What had been seen as a potential ally, perhaps now wrongly so, in the region is now generally perceived as a "runaway train" that the United States can no longer go to the United Nations time after time to protect from sanctions, 32 times thus far.  Israel clearly feels it has the United States "over a barrel" with control of media, a massive AIPAC lobby working against American policy and huge new financial influence over the upcoming Congressional elections handed over to them by the highly controversial 5/4 Supreme Court "free speech" election funding decision  clearly meant to aid Israel further in her ability to intimidate Congress.

Unofficially, Israel has moved to the top of America's "terrorist watch list" and is now drifting toward "evildoer" status, not only by the White House but, more broadly, through top defense officials who now perceive Israel as a threat to the United States.






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US policies on Israel endanger American troops

 



The Petraeus briefing: Biden's embarrassment is not the whole story

Posted By Mark Perry 091022_meta_block.gif Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 11:05 PM 091022_meta_block.gif 091022_more_icon.gif Share

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On Jan. 16, two days after a killer earthquake hit Haiti, a team of senior military officers from the U.S. Central Command (responsible for overseeing American security interests in the Middle East), arrived at the Pentagon to brief Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Adm. Michael Mullen on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The team had been dispatched by CENTCOM commander Gen. David Petraeus to underline his growing worries at the lack of progress in resolving the issue. The 33-slide, 45-minute PowerPoint briefing stunned Mullen. The briefers reported that there was a growing perception among Arab leaders that the U.S. was incapable of standing up to Israel, that CENTCOM's mostly Arab constituency was losing faith in American promises, that Israeli intransigence on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict was jeopardizing U.S. standing in the region, and that Mitchell himself was (as a senior Pentagon officer later bluntly described it) "too old, too slow ... and too late."


The January Mullen briefing was unprecedented. No previous CENTCOM commander had ever expressed himself on what is essentially a political issue; which is why the briefers were careful to tell Mullen that their conclusions followed from a December 2009 tour of the region where, on Petraeus's instructions, they spoke to senior Arab leaders. "Everywhere they went, the message was pretty humbling," a Pentagon officer familiar with the briefing says. "America was not only viewed as weak, but its military posture in the region was eroding." But Petraeus wasn't finished: two days after the Mullen briefing, Petraeus sent a paper to the White House requesting that the West Bank and Gaza (which, with Israel, is a part of the European Command -- or EUCOM), be made a part of his area of operations. Petraeus's reason was straightforward: with U.S. troops deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan, the U.S. military had to be perceived by Arab leaders as engaged  in the region's most troublesome conflict.

[UPDATE: A senior military officer denied Sunday that Petraeus sent a paper to the White House.

"CENTCOM did have a team brief the CJCS on concerns revolving around the Palestinian issue, and CENTCOM did propose a UCP change, but to CJCS, not to the WH," the officer said via email. "GEN Petraeus was not certain what might have been conveyed to the WH (if anything) from that brief to CJCS."

(UCP means "unified combatant command," like CENTCOM; CJCS refers to Mullen; and WH is the White House.)]

The Mullen briefing and Petraeus's request hit the White House like a bombshell. While Petraeus's request that CENTCOM be expanded to include the Palestinians was denied ("it was dead on arrival," a Pentagon officer confirms), the Obama administration decided it would redouble its efforts -- pressing Israel once again on the settlements issue, sending Mitchell on a visit to a number of Arab capitals and dispatching Mullen for a carefully arranged meeting with the chief of the Israeli General Staff, Lt. General Gabi Ashkenazi. While the American press speculated that Mullen's trip focused on Iran, the JCS Chairman actually carried a blunt, and tough, message on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict: that Israel had  to see its conflict with the Palestinians "in a larger, regional, context" -- as having a direct impact on America's status in the region. Certainly, it was thought, Israel would get the message.

Israel didn't. When Vice President Joe Biden was embarrassed by an Israeli announcement that the Netanyahu government was building 1,600 new homes in East Jerusalem, the administration reacted. But no one was more outraged than Biden who, according to the Israeli daily Yedioth Ahronoth, engaged in a private, and angry, exchange with the Israeli Prime Minister. Not surprisingly, what Biden told Netanyahu reflected the importance the administration attached to Petraeus's Mullen briefing:  "This is starting to get dangerous for us," Biden reportedly told Netanyahu. "What you're doing here undermines the security of our troops who are fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. That endangers us and it endangers regional peace." Yedioth Ahronoth went on to report: "The vice president told his Israeli hosts that since many people in the Muslim world perceived a connection between Israel's actions and US policy, any decision about construction that undermines Palestinian rights in East Jerusalem could have an impact on the personal safety of American troops fighting against Islamic terrorism." The message couldn't be plainer: Israel's intransigence could cost American  lives.

There are important and powerful lobbies in America: the NRA, the American Medical Association, the lawyers -- and the Israeli lobby. But no lobby is as important, or as powerful, as the U.S. military. While commentators and pundits might reflect that Joe Biden's trip to Israel has forever shifted America's relationship with its erstwhile ally in the region, the real break came in January, when David Petraeus sent a briefing team to the Pentagon with a stark warning: America's relationship with Israel is important, but not as important as the lives of America's soldiers. Maybe Israel gets the message now.

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[UPDATE 2--from Mark Perry: A senior military officer told Foreign Policy by email that one minor detail in my report, "The Petraeus Briefing" was incorrect: a request from General Petraeus for the Palestinian occupied territories (but, as I made clear, not Israel itself), be brought within CENTCOM's region of operation was sent to JCS Chairman Mullen - and not directly to the White House. My information was based on conversations with CENTCOM officials, who believed they were giving me correct information. It is significant that the correction was made, not because it is an important detail, but because it is was inconsequential to the overall narrative. In effect, the U.S. military has clearly said there was nothing in this report that could be denied.]

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Petraeus: I never formally asked for command of the Palestinian territories

Posted By Josh Rogin 091022_meta_block.gif Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 2:54 PM 091022_meta_block.gif 091022_more_icon.gif Share

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Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. military commander in the Middle East, did not formally request that the West Bank and Gaza be placed under his command's domain, he told a Senate panel Tuesday.

Petraeus was reacting to an article on Foreign Policy's Middle East Channel last week reporting that he briefed the Joint Chiefs of Staff about his concerns over how a lack of progress in the dispute between Israel and the Palestinians could jeopardize U.S. national security interests. The article originally stated that Petraeus followed up with a white paper sent to the White House that recommended the Palestinian territories be taken out of European Command's area of responsibility and placed with his own Central Command.

But in testimony today before the Senate Armed Services Committee, Petraeus denied that he made such a request and downplayed the discussions that he and other senior military leaders have had over the issue.

"Although some staff members have, various times, and I have discussed and you know, asking for the Palestinian territories or something like that to be added ... I have never made that a formal recommendation for the Unified Command Plan, and that was not in what I submitted this year," Petraeus said. "Nor have I sent a memo to the White House on any of this."

The article was updated to say that CENTCOM did in fact recommend that the Palestinian territories be added to its portfolio, but made that recommendation to the Joint Chiefs, not the White House.

On Tuesday, a senior military official close to Joint Chiefs Chairman Michael Mullen emailed Foreign Policy to say that "while the Chairman certainly did receive a briefing by Gen. Petraeus' team, he was not 'stunned' by it. Indeed, he found it somewhat out of date."

Retired Admiral William "Fox" Fallon, who was CENTCOM commander from 2007 to 2008, said that when he was in charge of the region, discussion about adding parts of Israel and the Palestinian territories to his portfolio was commonplace.

"It's been discussed in the past and I'm open to that kind of discussion when the time is right," Fallon told The Cable. "Frankly, during my time it wasn't right because we had two burning hot wars going on and didn't really need another major diplomatic challenge."

"From my perspective, in many respects it might be easier because the whole rest of the Middle East is part of CENTCOM, but in the end that's going to be a political decision," Fallon explained. "There are certain advantages to having it all in one pot but there's a lot friction there. Certainly it's worth exploring..."

Overall, Petraeus testified that the tensions caused by the dispute between Israel and its neighbors does have an "enormous effect" on other regional issues.

"My thrust has generally been, literally, just to encourage that process that can indeed get that recognition that you talked about, and indeed get a sense of progress moving forward in the overall peace process, because of the effect that it has on particularly what I think you would term the moderate governments in our area," he told Sen. John McCain, R-AZ.

U.S. Vice President Joe Biden was reported to have told Israeli President Bibi Netanyahu that Israel's actions to stall the peace process are endangering American troops in Afghanistan, although the White House is now denying he used such stark language.

But a State Department official, speaking on background, did acknowledge the administration's feeling that the peace process and U.S. activities throughout the Middle East are closely interconnected.

"If there's hope associated with a peace process, that can have a constructive impact both in Israel and Palestine and beyond. Where a process stagnates, that can also have implications," the official said. "We understand how important this issue is not only to the immediate parties but to the region as a whole. That's why we see this process as closely identified with broader U.S. interests in the region."

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Anchorage Activist said...

I do not believe Norman Finkelstein is a Zionist stooge, for two reasons:

(1). He disputes only the singularity of the Holocaust, not the demographics or the methodology. His only problem with the Official Authorized Version of the Holocaust is that it is presented as the penultimate genocide and that people are jailed in Europe for publicly disputing it.

(2). He is the son of two Holocaust survivors. Jewish supremacists would find it awkward to try to explain why they were persecuting the son of Holocaust survivors.

As a result, Organized Jewry growls and snaps at him, but won't actually bite him.

The "singularity" of the Holocaust is defined as the notion, promoted by Abe Foxman, that the Jewish Holocaust is a unique form of genocide. The problem is that this implies that Jewish suffering is worse than anyone else's suffering, which also implies that Jewish life is inherently more valuable than Gentile life. And that notion constitutes the very foundation of Jewish supremacism itself.

Balder said...

I think it is unfair to criticize Norman Finkelstein for refusing to take a clear stance on some aspects of the holocaust.

Everybody must decide on his own strategy. Going around the question about the numbers and gas chambers etc. makes a lot of things a lot easier.

The same goes for the question of Israel's existence as a Jewish state.

By staying relatively politically correct, he still has a platform.

Thomas Dalton wrote a book which potentially could clear up many things about the holocaust controversy for many people. But how many from the main stream can we get to read it?

I think it would be good to be less critical of people who are going in the right direction, even if it might not be entirely your or mine direction.

The allegation that because Finkelstein still manages to make the mainstream media, the Zionists must have allowed him to do it..

I know they are powerful, but they don't control everything..



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Mar 16, 2010

Sensational New Video: Adolf Hitler discovers Revisionism and Holocaust Denialism

 




Adolf Hitler discovers Revisionism and Holocaust Denialism

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