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Jul 18, 2011

Dr. Toben: Let's get over Hitler and Jews

 

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From: "Fredrick Toben" <toben@toben.biz>
Date: July 18, 2011 9:15:49 PM EDT
To: <Gpduf@aol.com>
Cc: "'Michael'" <reporternotebook@gmail.com>, "'Josef Schwanzer'" <donauschwob@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Let's get over Hitler and Jews

1. But Gordon, you are then perpetuating a myth that contains no new impulses to better a situation, locally or globally, because that myth you are perpetuating is full of lies. Why don't you grasp the nettle and in truly anticipatory-pioneering fashion open a dialogue with those who claim that

"A slave is one who can speak neither well of Hitler nor ill of Jewry."<<

2. We need to get away from this Marxist-Talmudic death dialectic and move into a Hegelian dialogue dialectic where guilt-by-association as a principle of research is rejected outright. I tend to regard an individual who still claims that Hitler/Nazis are the absolute evil as someone who is out of balance as regards the understanding of human nature and of the historical process as such.

 

3. That is why individuals who can't get over Hitler/Nazis display a deeply authoritarian mindset and fear free expression from which they then 'protect' themselves by developing a range of guilt-by-association strategies. We see this so clearly in the global warming/Holocaust debate that is pushed mainly by ex-lefties who still frantically wish to retain mind control of individuals who refuse to think globally but prefer to think nationally.

 

4. Among ordinary individuals I hear the cry for freedom from global economic exploitation and oppression and towards some form of community-local-regional/state nation building where the command is upwards from the people and not downwards to the people.

 

5. This cry from the people upwards may contain elements of what Germany did during the 12 years under Adolf Hitler and the National Socialists - NAZI – but that era/period cannot be replicated/duplicated in today's world, and in any case it was specifically German – and can you imagine how the world's population would react if it had imposed on it by force such values as order, beauty/cleanliness, honesty/transparent actions, creativity instead of change for change's sake, justice instead of vicious financial exploitation, and others?

 

6. Currently in Australia the issue of animal slaughter is a burning issue because our trade with Indonesia reveals that our cattle are brutally slaughtered, and now we demand slaughter houses stun the animal before slitting their throats. This issue has focused on local practices and Muslim groups do not oppose the stunning of animals but Jews do. The claim that kosher slaughter is a religious right is now developing into an issue – I can already hear the cries of 'antisemitism' and 'racism' and 'Nazi' that attempt to stifle debate on this contentious issue.

 

7. And then we just have to recall that Adolf Hitler and the National Socialists on 21 April 1933 enacted a law that banned kosher slaughter, thereby attacking a prime pillar of the Jewish religion. The Holocaust-Shoah mythology, of course, is now there to deflect from this 1933 German humane act of opposition to kosher slaughter. The reasoning is that Germans exterminated the Jews so what gives them the right to say anything about anything at all! Well, as you know Gordon through your ethnic background this Holocaust-Shoah – Hitler/Jew dialectic is a process full of exaggerations, distortions, fabrications, and outright lying that prevents us from gaining new insights into current and historical happenings in the world.

 

8. Upon reflection this is why I consider my meeting you at your home was valuable because I see you as someone who embodies these principles – as well, of course, the principle of AUTARKY from which the self emerges as an empathetic and fearless mature individual where the concept of 'change' has no home because individuals don't change but develop and mature - hopefully.

 

9. As to your claim that Murdoch is Jewish – it's irrelevant to me because I still claim that 'don't blame the Jews, blame those that bend to their pressure'. Thus what is far more important is that the whole controversy in London has led to the resignation of two policemen who were intimately involved in counter-terrorism operations, and by implication directly involved in the 7:7 2005 London bombing exercise. This follows closely on the US event that saw the writing out of their terrorism script the protagonist, Osama bin laden, by spreading the word that he was killed – again utter nonsense. In other words, in British politics there is a re-adjustment taking place in the usual dramatic and practical sense that also continues to keep the real impulses behind the scene protected from public scrutiny. There is even another death to hand – and Dr Kelley's death comes to mind when the WMD story had served its purpose and was finally exposed as a lie.

 

10. I'm sending a copy of this email to Santomauro and Schwanzer so that they can also spread my thoughts expressed therein, and in the hope that some commentary will be made on it.

 

Cheers

 

Fredrick Töben

 

From: Gpduf@aol.com [mailto:Gpduf@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, 18 July 2011 10:40 PM
To: toben@toben.biz
Subject: Re: FW: Gordon Duff

 

I am aware that our policies here in Ohio are not like Nazi Germany

 

but

 

one has to use language that people understand

 

 

In a message dated 7/18/2011 6:36:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, toben@toben.biz writes:

Gordon - will you let yourself be upset with my comment on your site?

Fredrick

-----Original Message-----
From: Fredrick Toben [mailto:toben@toben.biz]
Sent: Monday, 18 July 2011 7:54 PM
Subject: RE: Gordon Duff

>>If the tyrant's head is chopped off, then what have we left?

A culture of slaves who will seek another tyrant for their comforts.

Currently the characteristics of a slave are thus:

"A slave is one who can speak neither well of Hitler nor ill of Jewry."<<

 FredrickToben 1 second ago

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-----Original Message-----

Sent: Monday, 18 July 2011 7:33 PM

To: Fredrick Toben

Subject: Gordon Duff

Did you hear this? Gordon Duff says at approx 3.35:   

"Rupert Murdoch spent personally $10 Million to elect a Governor in 

the State of Ohio whose policies are reprehensible - we would equal 

them to Nazi Germany"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4l79ES2yLg

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Aldous Huxley: The Ultimate Revolution

 

when predictions come true........

http://pulsemedia.org/2009/02/02/aldous-huxley-the-ultimate-revolution/

Aldous Huxley: The Ultimate Revolution

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Aldous huxley

Aldous Huxley, author of Brave New World, here discusses influence, controlling the public mind and government.

"There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution."  Aldous Huxley



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We're All Greeks Now

 

We're All Greeks Now
By Patrick J. Buchanan
Friday - July 15, 2011

Departing for New Hampshire in November 2010, Sen. Judd Gregg, the fiscal conservative President Obama wanted in his Cabinet, blurted an inconvenient truth: "This nation is on a course where if we don't do something about it, get ... fiscal policy (under control), we're Greece."

The remark was regarded as hyperbole. But Gregg had a point. For though Greece, measured by the size of her economy, is only 2 to 3 percent of the EU or the U.S. economy, she is a microcosm of the West.

Consider the demography.

According to the most recent revision of the U.N.'s "World Population Prospects," Greece in 2010 had 11.2 million people.

More than 24 percent were 60 or above, more than 18 percent 65 or older. Three percent were 80 or above. And, every year, for every nine Greeks who are born, 10 Greeks die.

Greece is slowly passing away.

Fast forward to 2050.

Greece's population will have fallen by 300,000 to 10.8 million. The median age will have risen by eight years to 49.5. Half the population will be 50 or older. More critically, the share of Greece's population 60 or older will be 37.4 percent, with 31.3 percent over 65. One in nine Greeks will be over 80.

If Athens is breaking under the weight of early retirement and pensions for seniors today, her situation will be horrendous by mid-century.

Where, in 2010, there were four Greeks under 60 for every Greek over 60, by 2050, there will only be 1.7 Greeks under 60 for every Greek over 60.

Conclusion: The retirement age must rise, and pension benefits fall, or Greece collapses.

What of the possibility of a new baby boom? Not likely, given that the fertility rate in Greece has been below replacement levels for three decades and is today only two-thirds of that needed to replace the present population.

Indeed, by 2050, the fertility rate of Greek women will have been below zero population growth for 80 years. One wonders: How can the U.N. estimate that Greece's population will fall only 3 percent by then? Is the U.N. assuming mass immigration from the Muslim world?

But what does Greece have to do with the rest of Europe, or with us?

Only this. The median age of all of Europe is rising, and the demographic numbers for Greece look positively rosy alongside those of the east, where population declines in the tens of millions are projected for Russia and Ukraine. And outside Iceland and Albania, not one nation of Europe has a fertility rate sufficient to maintain its population. Those that are projected to grow, like Britain, have to be relying on Third World immigrants and their higher birth rate.

But while this may maintain an existing population size, immigrants from the Maghreb, Middle East, Caribbean, Latin America and South Asia, on average, lack the language, technical skills and educational levels of native-born Europeans.

The same is true in the U.S., where peoples of European descent are expected to drop to half the population by 2041. Hispanics will grow from 15 percent to near 30 percent of the U.S. population, and their absolute numbers from 50 million to 135 million by 2050.

Yet, again, Hispanics and children of Hispanic immigrants have not, as of yet, reached close to parity in educational achievement with Americans of East Asian or European ancestry.

People equate today's immigration with the immigration of 1890-1920. But another major difference is this: We erected a Great Society over 50 years that did not exist in 1920.

In Washington in the 1950s, a city of 800,000, half black and half white, food stamps had not been invented. Families fed themselves. Today, in a District of Columbia of 600,000, one in five are on food stamps. Nationally, a program that did not exist in 1964 feeds one in seven Americans, 44 million people, at a cost of $77 billion a year. And that is but a small fraction of our new Great Society.

We are entering a new "age of austerity," said British Prime Minister David Cameron in 2009.

The halcyon days are over. Government payrolls, as is happening from California to New York to Washington, D.C., will have to be slashed. Pension and health care benefits, not only for seniors, will have to be reduced. Retirement ages will have to be raised. From food stamps to foreign aid, programs are going to be capped and cut.

The left believes it can get the money from the wealthy. But the top 1 percent of Americans in income already carry 40 percent of the federal income tax load, while the bottom 50 percent of wage-earners ride free. This, too, will have to end.

We are either going to man up and radically reduce government at all levels in the United States, or the bond markets are going to do it for us, as they are doing it today for Greece, Ireland and Portugal.

We're all Greeks now.

 

 






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Gilad Atzmon: Jewish Democracy for Dummies

 

2. Gilad Atzmon: Jewish Democracy for Dummies

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/gilad-atzmon-jewish-democracy-for-dummies-1.html

In the 'Jews Only State', democratically elected politicians are suspended from the Parliament for basically being Palestinians and representing Palestinian interests. I can only guess that this is what the Israelis mean when they insist upon being called the 'Only Democracy in the Middle East'.

The Knesset's Ethics Committee decided today to suspend MK Hanin Zoabi (Balad) from all Knesset activities until the end of the current session which ends in two weeks, following her participation in last year's Gaza flotilla. According to the Ethics Committee, 'participation in flotilla does not fall within an MK's legitimate freedom of action.'

I guess that Israel doesn't really need enemies, it brings itself down pretty effectively.

 

 

 

2. Human Trafficking in the Jewish State

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/human-trafficking-in-the-jewish-state.html

A shocking Israeli TV documentary.

We are dealing here with the ultimate corrupted society.









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Jul 16, 2011

NYC boy spent hours with suspect before murder - CBS News

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/07/14/national/main20079404.shtml

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N.Y. Today: Ritual Mourning for Slain Brooklyn 8-Year-Old; For a Bereft Street Corner in Queens, a Red-Letter Day

 


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Gilad Atzmon: The Herem Law in the context of Jewish Past and Present

 

1. Gilad Atzmon: The Herem Law in the context of Jewish Past and Present

The European Union appear concerned about the new Israeli herem law. The law suggests that a person or an organisation calling for the boycott of Israel , including the settlements, can be sued by the boycotts' targets, without having to prove that they sustained any damage.

"We are concerned about the effect that this legislation may have on the freedom of Israeli citizens and organisations to express non-violent political opinions" said spokesperson for foreign policy chief, Catherine Ashton.

More and more people and institutions now understand that Israel is not a 'civilised society': it is impervious to notions of human and civil rights, and it also does not share the common and fundamental foundations of a Western value system.  Israel is not a democracy and it has never been one. At the most, Israel has managed to mimic some of the appearances of a Western civilisation, but it has clearly failed to internalise the meaning of tolerance and freedom.

This should not take us by surprise: Israel defines itself as a Jewish state, and Jewishness is, sadly enough, inherently intolerant; indeed, it may be argued that Jewish intolerance is as old as the Jews themselves.

Regarding legislation then, how are we to understand the implications of the word 'herem'? The Hebrew word herem in its contemporary usage refers to a ban,  boycott and sanction. However, within the biblical context, the word suggests the total destruction of the enemy and his goods at the conclusion of a campaign.

The emergence of Christianity then, can be viewed as an attempt to rectify such a situation of stark intolerance -- it can be understood as an attempt to drift away from The Old Testament's dark ideology. Christianity introduced ideas of harmony and love. And it is no wonder that the man who dared suggest to his Judean contemporaries to 'love their neighbours' ended up nailed to wood. He himself ended up being subject to a vile homicidal  herem campaign. 

Uriel Da Costa

The spirit of herem is intrinsic to the Judaic teaching and spirit. Many people are aware of Spinoza being subject to a Rabbinical herem. Yet, not many are familiar with the story of Uriel Da Costa.

 

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2, Gilad Atzmon: Israeli Contamination at the Heart of America

Ynet reported this morning about the arrest of an Israeli man on suspicion of blackmailing some 100 US girls. 

The Israeli man was detained on suspicion of hacking the computers of the girls and threatening to circulate their intimate photos, unless they perform indecent acts on their webcam.

Almost 100 girls aged 12 to 17 were among the victims. . The Israel man  is believed to have hacked their computers, seeking embarrassing photographs and later approaching them on online social networks and threatening them.

The man allegedly told the girls that should they fail to comply with his requests, he would circulate the photos among their acquaintances and relatives, and at their schools.

The girls, who were alarmed by the threats, complied with the suspect's demands.

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Fun stuff to read, tell and watch:

Now FREE to watch all 91 minutes: "Defamation," from Israeli filmmaker Yoav Shamir. LINK: http://tinyurl.com/3rvhdvc

Some of His Best Friends Are Jewish: The Saga of a Holocaust Revisionist By Nathaniel Popper. Link: http://tinyurl.com/3v6m88c

...an Israeli lawyer has filed a class-action lawsuit against former President Jimmy Carter, seeking $5 million in damages because his book "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid" allegedly defamed Israel. Link: http://tinyurl.com/3pltqg2

"...when you have laws against questioning the Holocaust narrative, you are screaming at the other person to stop thinking!!!" ---Mike Santomauro. *Anthony Lawson's Holocaust Video "were the Germans so stupid"... Link: http://tinyurl.com/44nsrco

An anti-Semite condemns people for being Jews, I am not an anti-Semite.--Mike Santomauro. Link: http://tinyurl.com/42z9p8o

Start reading DEBATING THE HOLOCAUST in under a minute: http://tinyurl.com/3f8h874

Peace.

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