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Dec 22, 2009

"The invention of the Jewish people" is interviewed in English

 




Shlomo Sands, Author of international best seller "The invention of the Jewish people" is interviewed in English

part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdRjochckms&feature=rec-r2-2f-5-HM

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic7vHSryjEs&feature=channel




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NOW AN AMAZON KINDLE BOOK ON YOUR PC, iPHONE OR KINDLE DEVICE

Debating the Holocaust: A New Look at Both Sides By Thomas Dalton

In this remarkable, balanced book, the author skillfully reviews and compares "traditional" and "revisionist" views on the "The Holocaust."

On one side is the traditional, orthodox view -- six million Jewish casualties, gas chambers, cremation ovens, mass graves, and thousands of witnesses. On the other is the view of a small band of skeptical writers and researchers, often unfairly labeled "deniers," who contend that the public has been gravely misled about this emotion-laden chapter of history.

The author establishes that the arguments and findings of revisionist scholars are substantive, and deserve serious consideration. He points out, for example, that even the eminent Jewish Holocaust scholar Raul Hilberg acknowledged that there was no budget, plan or order by Hitler for a World War II program to exterminate Europe's Jews.

This book is especially relevant right now, as "Holocaust deniers" are routinely and harshly punished for their "blasphemy," and as growing numbers of people regard the standard, Hollywoodized "Holocaust" narrative with mounting suspicion and distrust.

The author of this book, who writes under the pen name of "Thomas Dalton," is an American scholar who holds a doctoral degree from a major US university.

This is no peripheral debate between arcane views of some obscure aspect of twentieth century history. Instead, this is a clash with profound social-political implications regarding freedom of speech and press, the manipulation of public opinion, how our cultural life is shaped, and how power is wielded in our society.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_0_8?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=debating+the+holocaust&sprefix=DEBATING

Peace.

Michael Santomauro
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Ridiculous "Study" Supposedly Finds Widespread Anti-Semitism on Progressive Websites

 


 

ReportersNotebook memo: What this honest Jewish writer exposes is simply the continuation of the never ending attempts of many Jewish groups to invent what else they can get to stick on their already absurd list of whines, lies and protests. 
 

 

Ridiculous "Study" Supposedly Finds Widespread Anti-Semitism on Progressive Websites

By Joshua Holland, AlterNet
Posted on December 21, 2009, Printed on December 22, 2009
http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/www.alternet.org/144724/

Given how ubiquitous unsubstantiated charges of anti-Semitism have become in the debate over the Middle East conflict, I'm tempted to ignore the Institute for Global Jewish Affairs' recent "report" supposedly exposing the liberal blogosphere as a teaming hotbed of raw Jew-hatred.
 
It's easy to dismiss. It may dress itself as some sort of empirical research project, but the "study" is transparently devoid of any informational value, intellectually bankrupt and clearly the product of working backwards from a conclusion arrived at on ideological grounds.
 
But I won't ignore it, because the strategic decision to pin one's political opponents with charges of anti-Semitism only dilutes the power of that word. Then, like the boy who cried wolf, when real anti-Semitism rears its decidedly ugly head the word loses its all-important power to shame. I'm Jewish, and I don't fear sharp-elbowed criticism of Israeli policy on websites, so it's not in my interest to allow it to be conflated with true anti-Semitism, which is absolutely no joke.
 
The gist:

Progressive blogs and news sites in the United States are a new field where Jew-hatred, in both its classic and anti-Israeli forms, manifests itself. This incitement is hardly monitored, as many of the most popular blogs are only a few years old and it seems counterintuitive that such anti-Semitic expressions would be found in this political milieu. Monitoring the media for anti-Semitic and anti-Israeli bigotry has so far almost exclusively consisted of reading the major American newspapers, magazines, and journals and attending to the three major news networks, as well as radio broadcasts. However, the huge amount of content in the political blogosphere makes such monitoring - which is increasingly necessary - much more difficult to achieve with any degree of thoroughness.
 
And they're not going to begin applying any thoroughness here. Ultimately, what the researchers actually found will come as a surprise to few readers: people tend to be mean on the internet.
That is undeniably true. They're mean, cantankerous, undignified, unrestrained and hyperbolic (obviously I don't mean you kids, who are always perfectly dignified). And that's true whatever the subject. For example, in addition to politics, I fancy baseball, and when Red Sox and Yankees fans go at it on the fan websites, it's as fierce as a member of Hamas debating an Israeli settler.
 
Progressive bloggers (and blog readers, which I'll get to in a moment) can offer some uncomfortable criticism. If one wants to marginalize them as fringe anti-Semites, it's easy enough to find a few saying mean things about their opponents on this issue, as one could with any other. Like baseball. Then if one works, say, at the Institute for Global Jewish Affairs, one merely extrapolates some larger, darker message about modern liberalism from that typically unconstrained rhetoric. It becomes more proof -- dubious, but eagerly accepted in some quarters -- of the rise of "new anti-Semitism" on the left.
 
Having established a point of agreement -- people are mean on the internet -- consider the flimsiness of the evidence the authors marshal in support of their larger thesis, at least when their ominous editorial flourishes are stripped away.
 

The report uses just three prominent blogs -- Daily Kos, Salon, and the Huffington Post -- as a sample supposedly representing the entire liberal online world. But it doesn't really use those blogs -- not a single front-page author of Daily Kos is cited. And only a single writer, Glenn Greenwald, represents Salon. In fact, Greenwald is the only blogger in the entire report whose name I've heard, and I've been reading and writing blogs for years.
 
There's certainly been no effort to categorize and qualify all the posts on these blogs in any empirical fashion -- the authors simply offer selective quotes showing that some people are mean on the internet when discussing Israel and Palestine. And, again, that's undeniably true.
 
The "researchers" used two profoundly stupid "methodologies" to obtain their results. Their worst crime was extensive "nut-picking," the intellectually-dishonest practice of selecting crazy comments left on a blog or news site by anonymous readers and attributing them to the site's authors.
 
They also took legitimate, if sharp, criticism of either Israeli actions, U.S. policy in the Middle East or right-wing Jewish commentary written by liberal bloggers, excerpted them out of context and conflated the little quotes with various traditional anti-Semitic narratives.
 
The clearest example of the latter tact is this, in reference to Glenn Greenwald:
 

Greenwald writes frequently about Israel and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He often focuses on how the conflict plays itself out in American politics, and he makes claims - associated recently with Stephen Walt and John Mearsheimer - about the power of the Israel lobby in this political debate.
 
This is how Walt and Mearsheimer were smeared. They never suggested that Jews played some dark role behind the scenes -- never accused Jewish Bankers of running the world. They're old-school foreign policy realists, and they analyzed the effects of the Israel lobby on U.S. foreign policy. The Israel lobby, while highly effective, is no different than the Cuban lobby or the Armenian lobby -- groups with a powerful affinity for a foreign country always hold disproportionate sway over policy towards that state. And the authors are very clear -- Greenwald is too -- that the Israel lobby is not Jewish. Its influence would not be so great if not for conservative Christian Zionists like John Hagee.

 Then they note -- and this is really a disgusting smear -- that David Duke approvingly linked to a post by Glenn Greenwald. A more obvious example of frivolous guilt-by-association would be hard to find.
 
Then:
Although, seemingly, such charges of the corrosive influence of "Jewish money" and insufficient American Jewish loyalty to the United States are typical of right-wing extremism and classic anti-Semitism, Greenwald has a liberal affiliation.
 
More evidence that Greenwald, himself a Jew, is of the "self-loathing" variety: he's harsh on right-wing pundits who happen to be Jewish.
 
Also of note are Greenwald's extreme accusations against well-known Jewish pro-Israeli commentators, using almost demonizing terminology. In one post he accuses Michael Goldfarb of The Weekly Standard and Martin Peretz of The New Republic of "psychopathic derangement" over what he characterizes as their insensitivity toward civilian deaths. He goes on to impute to them "sociopathic indifference," and says these are the same attributes as terrorists possess. Goldfarb and Peretz, he says further, seem to get a "blood-pumping excitement" from the suffering of the weakest members of society.
 
Let me second Greenwald on that description of Goldfarb and Peretz -- fits what they advocate to a T.
 
The authors make quite a bit of hay over the fact that people use Nazi imagery to criticize Israel. Let's set aside the obvious hypocrisy -- defenders of the status quo (I won't call them "pro-Israel") invoke Holocaust imagery constantly in advocating their positions; apparently that's only legitimate when some do it.
 
More to the point is Godwin's law: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1." In other words, Nazi comparisons are a regrettable part of our political discourse, whatever the topic.
 
Jonah Goldberg wrote Liberal Fascism. It's popular in some circles on the right to compare Obama to Hitler. Critics of abortion liken it to Hitler's eugenics program. Saddam Hussein was compared to Hitler. So, yes, we can all agree people should take more care throwing those analogies around in regard to Israel, but the idea that it is evidence of anti-Semitism is ridiculous as long as everyone's going around comparing everything they don't like to Nazi Germany.
 
Daily Kos is a diary site -- there's a small stable of writers who work for Kos and contribute to the front page. But anyone can publish a diary, and some on Kos have been harsh in their criticism of Israel. Again, there are no writers affiliated with the blog cited -- the evidence is simply that some of these diaries, left by anonymous users, contain what we might all agree is over-the-top attacks on Israel.
 
The only other piece of evidence offered is that a single, unknown Jewish diarist decided that Kos was a hot-bed of anti-Semitism and stopped posting there.
 
The authors also criticize Kos for not deleting diaries that they find offensive:
 
Apparently, those in charge of this progressive [sic] do not regard such comparisons between Israeli Jews and Nazis, or explicitly anti-Semitic descriptions of Jews and Israel as demonic forces seeking the destruction of the world, as either hateful or sufficiently inflammatory to be removed from the site. 
 
There's an interesting irony here. Earlier, the study attacked Greenwald for holding that there's a "Jewish community that uses intimidation and smear tactics to stifle debate on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict." Greenwald never said that, of course, because he knows those defending the status quo don't represent "the Jewish community" at large. But after making the claim, the Institute for Global Jewish Affairs issue a report accusing a huge community with thousands of contributors of anti-Semitism based on some inflammatory rhetoric from a few diarists. That's called "stifling debate."
 
The evidence against HuffPo? Again, mean commenters, and some bloggers whose criticism of Israel were deemed beyond the pale by the authors. That's it.
 
It's a slanderous report, and just to bring home the point of how dangerous it is to minimize real anti-Semitism by bitching about mean commenters on websites: I'm on various list-servs with progressives who write about Israel and Palestine -- most of them Jewish -- and when the report was issued our reaction was: 'what do you have to do to get on this list -- why weren't we included?'
 
When you have progressive Jewish writers looking at charges of anti-Semitism as a badge of courage, it's time to re-think your tactics.
 
ADDED: One of the Kos diarists mentioned in the report adds his $.02 in the comments. Pertinent point:
 
It is Daily Kos policy to generally avoid deleting diaries, now matter how offensive they are and even after the diarist has been banned.

Thus, for example, the author of this diary insisting that "Obama is White" was promptly banned for being a troll -- but the diary was not deleted. That's not because the Daily Kos admins support the view that "Obama is White", it's because that's how Daily Kos's system of community moderation works. Offensive diaries and comments are not deleted: rather, offensive comments are 'hide rated' by other members and thereby become visible only to 'trusted users' of the site, while offensive diaries have their "Tip Jars" hide rated and, if necessary, the diarist is banned from the site.

Now, one can agree or disagree with this policy, but the point is that it is not applied specifically to antisemitic diaries. It is a general policy not to delete diaries for being offensive. Thus, Levick's attempts to insinuate from the continued existence of antisemitic diaries on Daily Kos that Markos etc. support antisemitism is totally baseless.

I should add that [the study's author] would have been able to discover all this instantly if he'd have just bothered to ask one of the Daily Kos admins before writing his "report".
 
I also cleaned up some typos after publication.


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In this remarkable, balanced book, the author skillfully reviews and compares "traditional" and "revisionist" views on the "The Holocaust."

On one side is the traditional, orthodox view -- six million Jewish casualties, gas chambers, cremation ovens, mass graves, and thousands of witnesses. On the other is the view of a small band of skeptical writers and researchers, often unfairly labeled "deniers," who contend that the public has been gravely misled about this emotion-laden chapter of history.

The author establishes that the arguments and findings of revisionist scholars are substantive, and deserve serious consideration. He points out, for example, that even the eminent Jewish Holocaust scholar Raul Hilberg acknowledged that there was no budget, plan or order by Hitler for a World War II program to exterminate Europe's Jews.

This book is especially relevant right now, as "Holocaust deniers" are routinely and harshly punished for their "blasphemy," and as growing numbers of people regard the standard, Hollywoodized "Holocaust" narrative with mounting suspicion and distrust.

The author of this book, who writes under the pen name of "Thomas Dalton," is an American scholar who holds a doctoral degree from a major US university.

This is no peripheral debate between arcane views of some obscure aspect of twentieth century history. Instead, this is a clash with profound social-political implications regarding freedom of speech and press, the manipulation of public opinion, how our cultural life is shaped, and how power is wielded in our society.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_0_8?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=debating+the+holocaust&sprefix=DEBATING

Peace.

Michael Santomauro
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Giuseppe Furioso Letter to NYT: ''Diane Sawyer to Anchor ABC's Nightly News''

 



Sent: Tue, Dec 22, 2009 4:50 pm
Subject: '' Diane Sawyer to Anchor ABC's Nightly News ''

To The Editor,
                     In an effort to demonstrate Diane Sawyer '' bona fides '' as a hard hitting journalist ( '' Sawyer Sets Her Tone as ABC's Anchor " : New York Times Dec.22, 2009 ). today's Times  informs  us how during a recent interview in Copenhagen she confronted President Ahmadinejad of Iran over his country's alleged drive to develop nuclear weapons. '' Seated across from Mr. Almadinejad ...Ms Sawyer waved a copy of a document that was published in The Times of London this month that suggests that Iran is working on a trigger for a nuclear bomb. '' Have you been been testing a neutron initiator ? " she asked sounding a bit like a principal who has caught a student cheating'' . Rudeness toward a Moslem head of state is apparently in a good career move if you are an journalist who wishes to anchor the nightly news. However I would have more respect for Ms. Sawyer if she had applied this same confrontational style to an interview with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and asked him about his county's over four hundred nuclear warheads. The consequences I think are obvious; Ms. Sawyer's career as a journalist would have come to an abrupt end.
 
giuseppe furioso 
 
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NOW AN AMAZON KINDLE BOOK ON YOUR PC, iPHONE OR KINDLE DEVICE

Debating the Holocaust: A New Look at Both Sides By Thomas Dalton

In this remarkable, balanced book, the author skillfully reviews and compares "traditional" and "revisionist" views on the "The Holocaust."

On one side is the traditional, orthodox view -- six million Jewish casualties, gas chambers, cremation ovens, mass graves, and thousands of witnesses. On the other is the view of a small band of skeptical writers and researchers, often unfairly labeled "deniers," who contend that the public has been gravely misled about this emotion-laden chapter of history.

The author establishes that the arguments and findings of revisionist scholars are substantive, and deserve serious consideration. He points out, for example, that even the eminent Jewish Holocaust scholar Raul Hilberg acknowledged that there was no budget, plan or order by Hitler for a World War II program to exterminate Europe's Jews.

This book is especially relevant right now, as "Holocaust deniers" are routinely and harshly punished for their "blasphemy," and as growing numbers of people regard the standard, Hollywoodized "Holocaust" narrative with mounting suspicion and distrust.

The author of this book, who writes under the pen name of "Thomas Dalton," is an American scholar who holds a doctoral degree from a major US university.

This is no peripheral debate between arcane views of some obscure aspect of twentieth century history. Instead, this is a clash with profound social-political implications regarding freedom of speech and press, the manipulation of public opinion, how our cultural life is shaped, and how power is wielded in our society.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_0_8?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=debating+the+holocaust&sprefix=DEBATING

Peace.

Michael Santomauro
Editorial Director
Call anytime: 917-974-6367
ReporterNotebook@Gmail.com



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Giuseppe Furioso Letter to NYT: ''Diane Sawyer to Anchor ABC's Nightly News''

 



Sent: Tue, Dec 22, 2009 4:50 pm
Subject: '' Diane Sawyer to Anchor ABC's Nightly News ''

To The Editor,
                     In an effort to demonstrate Diane Sawyer '' bona fides '' as a hard hitting journalist ( '' Sawyer Sets Her Tone as ABC's Anchor " : NewYork Times Dec.22, 2009 ). toay's Times  informs  us how during a recent interview in Copenhagen she confronted President Ahmadinejad of Iran over his country's alleged drive to develop nuclear weapons. '' Seated across from Mr. Almadinejad ...Ms Sawyer waved a copy of a document that was published in The Times of London this month that suggests that Iran is working on a trigger for a nuclear bomb. '' Have you been been testing a neutron initiator ? " she asked sounding a bit like a principal who has caught a student cheating'' . Rudeness toward a Moslem head of state is apparently in a good career move if you are an journalist who wishes to anchor the nightly news. However I would have more respect for Ms. Sawyer if she had applied this same confrontational style to an interview with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and asked him about his county's over four hundred nuclear warheads. The consequences I think are obvious; Ms. Sawyer's career as a journalist would have come to an abrupt end.
 
giuseppe furioso 
 
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NOW AN AMAZON KINDLE BOOK ON YOUR PC, iPHONE OR KINDLE DEVICE

Debating the Holocaust: A New Look at Both Sides By Thomas Dalton

In this remarkable, balanced book, the author skillfully reviews and compares "traditional" and "revisionist" views on the "The Holocaust."

On one side is the traditional, orthodox view -- six million Jewish casualties, gas chambers, cremation ovens, mass graves, and thousands of witnesses. On the other is the view of a small band of skeptical writers and researchers, often unfairly labeled "deniers," who contend that the public has been gravely misled about this emotion-laden chapter of history.

The author establishes that the arguments and findings of revisionist scholars are substantive, and deserve serious consideration. He points out, for example, that even the eminent Jewish Holocaust scholar Raul Hilberg acknowledged that there was no budget, plan or order by Hitler for a World War II program to exterminate Europe's Jews.

This book is especially relevant right now, as "Holocaust deniers" are routinely and harshly punished for their "blasphemy," and as growing numbers of people regard the standard, Hollywoodized "Holocaust" narrative with mounting suspicion and distrust.

The author of this book, who writes under the pen name of "Thomas Dalton," is an American scholar who holds a doctoral degree from a major US university.

This is no peripheral debate between arcane views of some obscure aspect of twentieth century history. Instead, this is a clash with profound social-political implications regarding freedom of speech and press, the manipulation of public opinion, how our cultural life is shaped, and how power is wielded in our society.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_0_8?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=debating+the+holocaust&sprefix=DEBATING

Peace.

Michael Santomauro
Editorial Director
Call anytime: 917-974-6367
ReporterNotebook@Gmail.com

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ADL Wants to Investigate 'Nazi' Pope

 


[ReportersNotebook memo: The ADL wants unrestricted access to Catholic Church archives so they can make their own alleged independent determination of Pope Pius XII claim to fame.

Does the ADL support open access to holocaust records and independent research?

 

ADL Deeply Troubled By Move to Put Pius XII Back on Track for Sainthood; Calls for Suspension of Process Until Archives Are Opened 

New York, NY, December 21, 2009 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) said it was "deeply troubled" by Pope Benedict XVI's decision to move Holocaust-era Pope Pius XII one step closer to sainthood.   The League today called on Pope Benedict to suspend the sainthood process until the relevant Vatican archival documents are made accessible to qualified historians and scholars.

"We are deeply troubled that this step would be taken without the Vatican opening up its Secret Archives for the period before, during and after the Holocaust," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director and a Holocaust survivor.  "While we fully recognize that the process of sainthood is an internal matter for the Church, the issue of what Pope Pius XII did or did not do to help save Jews during the Holocaust is a profound question that should be resolved first, for the sake of the Jewish-Catholic relationship. We cannot understand the need to rush to do this now, especially while there are still survivors who are alive who feel the issue very, very deeply."

In noting Pope Benedict's address, which recognized Pius' "heroic virtues" as pope, Mr. Foxman said: "Pope Benedict said that Catholic saints are not representatives of the past but rather they form part of the present and future of the Church and society. That makes it even more crucial for the complete record of such a person to be first studied and understood by qualified independent scholars and historians before any conclusions are reached.  Until all the Vatican's secret World War II-era archives are declassified and made available to legitimate independent scholars for study and analysis, Pius XII's record vis-à-vis Jews will continue to be shrouded, and a source of controversy and contention."

ADL has for years consistently stated that it is in the best interests of both the Roman Catholic Church and the Jewish people to declassify and make available to responsible independent scholars and historians all relevant pre-war and post-war Church archives to seek the best obtainable version of the truth about Pope Pius XII's role during the Holocaust.  These would include materials known as the Vatican's Secret Archives, the archives of European Bishops Conferences, and the archives of Papal Nuncios from around the world working under the administration of Pope Pius XII.

These Church records have special significance for Holocaust survivors and their families. To proceed on the process toward sainthood without having all of the facts would be premature when so much is not known about the historical truth of the Vatican's actions during the war.

http://www.adl.org/PresRele/VaticanJewish_96/5682_96.htm

 
 


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NOW AN AMAZON KINDLE BOOK ON YOUR PC, iPHONE OR KINDLE DEVICE

Debating the Holocaust: A New Look at Both Sides By Thomas Dalton

In this remarkable, balanced book, the author skillfully reviews and compares "traditional" and "revisionist" views on the "The Holocaust."

On one side is the traditional, orthodox view -- six million Jewish casualties, gas chambers, cremation ovens, mass graves, and thousands of witnesses. On the other is the view of a small band of skeptical writers and researchers, often unfairly labeled "deniers," who contend that the public has been gravely misled about this emotion-laden chapter of history.

The author establishes that the arguments and findings of revisionist scholars are substantive, and deserve serious consideration. He points out, for example, that even the eminent Jewish Holocaust scholar Raul Hilberg acknowledged that there was no budget, plan or order by Hitler for a World War II program to exterminate Europe's Jews.

This book is especially relevant right now, as "Holocaust deniers" are routinely and harshly punished for their "blasphemy," and as growing numbers of people regard the standard, Hollywoodized "Holocaust" narrative with mounting suspicion and distrust.

The author of this book, who writes under the pen name of "Thomas Dalton," is an American scholar who holds a doctoral degree from a major US university.

This is no peripheral debate between arcane views of some obscure aspect of twentieth century history. Instead, this is a clash with profound social-political implications regarding freedom of speech and press, the manipulation of public opinion, how our cultural life is shaped, and how power is wielded in our society.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_0_8?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=debating+the+holocaust&sprefix=DEBATING

Peace.

Michael Santomauro
Editorial Director
Call anytime: 917-974-6367
ReporterNotebook@Gmail.com

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Zionists: They do know how to sell.. understand the mind and take full advantage...

 

MEMO: A GREAT comment from a BLOG:



Posted by Hank to Smoking Mirrors at 7:40 PM on Dec. 21, 2009


Hank has left a new comment on the post "Play 24 Hour Miniature Golf at Auschwitz.":

Ahhh, the holocaust. Another of those places where public elective ignorance runs rampant.

I was having a discussion with a friend of mine, a friend of 50 years, about this very thing. Dave is a great guy and a good friend, and in most cases intelligent and open minded, but there are certain areas where he simply cannot allow his mind to go. The holocaust is one of them. He is convinced that it happened just the way the jews tell it. "I've seen the pictures" he tells me, "they speak for themselves". I ended the discussion by asking him to show me ONE picture of a German soldier killing anyone in an interment camp. Show me one picture of a body with a bullet hole out of all these pictures of the supposed murdered jews. I told him to get back with me when he found them.

That was 4 months ago, and I still haven't heard from Dave. I don't think he has changed his mind, but I also know he can't find the pictures I requested, because they don't exist.

I have to give it to them, these Zionists. They do know how to sell bullshit. They understand how the human mind is wired, and they take full advantage. Show the people a shocking picture, tell them a story, and the story and the picture get embedded in the mind as one. Once that happens, the human mind is hardwired to defend that perception, even in the face of evidence to the contrary, and prying the two apart is like trying to get the Kool Aid back out of the water.

However, like many others, I have felt a disturbance in the force. It would appear that the ignorant masses do have a functioning bullshit meter, whether they are aware of it or not. Record gun and ammunition sales in America stand as mute witness to this fact, and as you have noted Les, if the jews who are aware of what Israel is doing don't speak out against it, they are going to get lumped in with, and pay the same price as the bad old Zionists, once the 'gig' is up.

Let me see...start with a large amount of deliberately dumbed down, ignorant masses, add a copious amount of guns and ammunition...now a heaping helping of stealing all their money and sending their jobs overseas...a substantial sprinkling of blatant, in your face with your money, elitist excess...mix thoroughly, bring to a boil, and you have a wonderful recipe for disaster.

Campbellstein soup, umm umm good.

Actually, you all go ahead, I'm not really hungry. Peace.

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Debating the Holocaust: A New Look at Both Sides By Thomas Dalton

In this remarkable, balanced book, the author skillfully reviews and compares "traditional" and "revisionist" views on the "The Holocaust."

On one side is the traditional, orthodox view -- six million Jewish casualties, gas chambers, cremation ovens, mass graves, and thousands of witnesses. On the other is the view of a small band of skeptical writers and researchers, often unfairly labeled "deniers," who contend that the public has been gravely misled about this emotion-laden chapter of history.

The author establishes that the arguments and findings of revisionist scholars are substantive, and deserve serious consideration. He points out, for example, that even the eminent Jewish Holocaust scholar Raul Hilberg acknowledged that there was no budget, plan or order by Hitler for a World War II program to exterminate Europe's Jews.

This book is especially relevant right now, as "Holocaust deniers" are routinely and harshly punished for their "blasphemy," and as growing numbers of people regard the standard, Hollywoodized "Holocaust" narrative with mounting suspicion and distrust.

The author of this book, who writes under the pen name of "Thomas Dalton," is an American scholar who holds a doctoral degree from a major US university.

This is no peripheral debate between arcane views of some obscure aspect of twentieth century history. Instead, this is a clash with profound social-political implications regarding freedom of speech and press, the manipulation of public opinion, how our cultural life is shaped, and how power is wielded in our society.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_0_8?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=debating+the+holocaust&sprefix=DEBATING

Peace.

Michael Santomauro
Editorial Director
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Climategate: hide the decline - codified

 


Rich Ahlgrim said on Climategate: hide the decline - codified

November 25, 2009 at 9:00 am

If I wrote code like this I would be facing jail time (I am a finiancial programmer).

This is criminal

See all comments on this post here.

EXCERPTS:
Infowarrior 

Having worked as a research assistant at Columbia University, the only thing that surprises me is the childish language and the tone of all the emails. Scholarship is corrupt to the core and that's why I decided never to get a PHD.

The number one corruption is that no thesis is approved for research unless the research passes a political litmus test. Translation: Unless you already have a conclusion in mind that does not seriously detract from that of your colleagues, you have no hope of being published.

Now, I am published (only one paper), but it is in the field of Philosophical History, it did not require any grant money, and it passed the political litmus test among Orientalists detracting from those whose background is Occidental. Translation: the paper is perceived as "progressive" so it is good to go.

Of course it's a bad idea to base policy upon modern scholarship in highly controversial areas. Unless proposed research is designed to meet, substantiate, or reflect progressive ideals, you haven't got a chance.

Mainstream scholarship in recent history has got some very obvious things dead wrong because of progressive politics. Just as we heard all the lies about imminent O-Zone disaster to racial integration increasing property value (believe what you will about the social merit of integration, the economic is quite obvious), they are wrong again about yet another one.

However, their arrogance is astonishing in the email and programming notes. It should be no surprise they fudge evidence and conclusions–that's 95% of scholarship, where position is more important than the truth. The surprise is that they all seem to be knowingly complicit in deception and not care. Everyone whom I worked with believed their crap!

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" Around 1996, I became aware of how corrupt and ideologically driven current climate research can be. A major researcher working in the area of climate change confided in me that the factual record needed to be altered so that people would become alarmed over global warming. He said, "We have to get rid of the Medieval Warm Period."
Dr. David Deming (University of Oklahoma)


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In this remarkable, balanced book, the author skillfully reviews and compares "traditional" and "revisionist" views on the "The Holocaust."

On one side is the traditional, orthodox view -- six million Jewish casualties, gas chambers, cremation ovens, mass graves, and thousands of witnesses. On the other is the view of a small band of skeptical writers and researchers, often unfairly labeled "deniers," who contend that the public has been gravely misled about this emotion-laden chapter of history.

The author establishes that the arguments and findings of revisionist scholars are substantive, and deserve serious consideration. He points out, for example, that even the eminent Jewish Holocaust scholar Raul Hilberg acknowledged that there was no budget, plan or order by Hitler for a World War II program to exterminate Europe's Jews.

This book is especially relevant right now, as "Holocaust deniers" are routinely and harshly punished for their "blasphemy," and as growing numbers of people regard the standard, Hollywoodized "Holocaust" narrative with mounting suspicion and distrust.

The author of this book, who writes under the pen name of "Thomas Dalton," is an American scholar who holds a doctoral degree from a major US university.

This is no peripheral debate between arcane views of some obscure aspect of twentieth century history. Instead, this is a clash with profound social-political implications regarding freedom of speech and press, the manipulation of public opinion, how our cultural life is shaped, and how power is wielded in our society.

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JEFF GATES: What is Israel’s Role in the Destabilization of Pakistan?

 

America Needs Pakistan's Help - Again (Part 2)


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Zionist Dominance in the Obama Presidency

USA Pakistan looking in opposite directions - blindedBe not deceived by Barack Hussein Obama's middle name or by the fact that he spent several childhood years in Indonesia. His political career is a product of a Westside Chicago Ashkenazi network with roots that trace directly back to organized crime of the 1920s.

Top fundraiser Penny Pritzker traces her family lineage to grandfather Abe and great-grandfather Nicholas who served as lawyers for organized crime. She declined a nomination as Secretary of Commerce in the Obama Cabinet, a post typically offered top fundraisers. Her confirmation hearings could have proved a political embarrassment by reminding us of the suspect origins of "our" latest president.

Clinton White House counsel Abner Mikva aptly described this high-profile product of the Chicago Outfit as "the first Jewish president." Plus his Vice President, only a heartbeat from the reins of power, is the reliably obsequious Joe "I am a Zionist" Biden.

For his Secretary of State, Obama appointed a presidential rival, Hillary Clinton, whose political career traces to the same source. After serving as First Lady in the presidency of Arkansas native Bill Clinton, she fled to New York to run for the U.S. Senate knowing she could not win an election—any election—in Arkansas where she is widely reviled.

By staking out extreme pro-Israeli positions, she joined New York Senator Charles Schumer as, in practical effect, the second Jewish Senator from a key electoral state long dominated by this trans-generational criminal syndicate.

The chiefs of staff for Barack and Michele Obama are both Ashkenazim from Chicago, long a center of foreign espionage. That fact was recently reconfirmed by Federal Bureau of Investigation translator Sibel Edmonds when, from FBI wiretaps, she documented the close working relationship between the Israel Lobby and U.S. officials with power over policy making in the Middle East, including Richard Perle, Wolfowitz understudy Douglas Feith and key members of Congress.

Earlier this month, a Chicago man whose father was a Pakistani diplomat was charged with involvement in planning "India's 911." In practical effect, the murder of 166 people in Mumbai, India's financial center, accelerated the destabilization of Pakistan by drawing troops out of the western provinces for redeployment along the eastern border with India. See:

What is Israel's Role in the Destabilization of Pakistan?

Why Outside Help Is Required

The same syndicate working to destabilize Pakistan is also destabilizing the U.S.—from the inside. That's why ordinary Americans need the assistance of Pakistanis and others outside the U.S. to restore some semblance of representative government.

The confidence with which this game theory aggression progressed in plain sight could be seen in the behavior of Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, a key Zionist insider. Four days after 9-11 while in a principals' meeting at Camp David, a presidential retreat outside Washington, he proposed that the U.S. invade Iraq. At that time, the intelligence did not point to Iraqi involvement and Osama bin Laden was thought to be hiding in a remote region of Afghanistan.

On that same day, San Diego FBI Special Agent Stephen Butler interrogated Iraqi Munther Ghazal at his home near San Diego to determine if he was funding Mel Rockefeller with whom Ghazal traveled to Baghdad in early 1997. After meeting for several days with Nidhal al-Hamdani, a top nuclear physicist with oversight of Iraq's mothballed nuclear weapons program, Rockefeller returned to the U.S. with a practical proposal for removing Saddam Hussein without this war and without triggering a violent and destabilizing insurgency.

Dr Hamadan talking to Saddam Hussain

When regional specialists at the U.S. Department of State declined to meet with him, he traveled to Ottawa in April 1997 where he met with Middle East specialists in the Canadian government to ensure a written record would confirm there was an alternative to war in Iraq—six years before the invasion. Instead of debriefing him, FBI agents sought to discredit him.

Though FBI agents interviewed Munther Ghazal numerous times, they have yet to meet with Mel Rockefeller. Four packages sent to the Phoenix divisional office of the FBI documenting ongoing treason and criminal stalking were returned, marked "refused."

FBI Special Agent Butler cashed checks and paid rent for the two San Diego-based hijackers who piloted planes into the World Trade Center towers. The same Iman who counseled Major Nidal Hasan (with FBI knowledge) before he was transferred to Fort Hood—where he went on a shooting spree—alsoFax counseled the San Diego-based hijackers—likewise with FBI knowledge.

As of December 18, 2009, no one from either federal law enforcement or national security had debriefed Mel Rockefeller—eight years after 9-11. Had he been engaged in good faith in early 1997 after his return from Baghdad or in early 2001 after his return from Jakarta, the facts suggest that 9-11 might well have been prevented. Good faith engagement after 9-11 could have prevented the invasion of Iraq. Instead, extraordinary steps were taken to discredit him.

When President George H.W. Bush declined to invade Baghdad to remove Saddam Hussein during the 1991 Gulf War, Pentagon Under Secretary for Policy Paul Wolfowitz imposed a No-Fly Zone in northern Iraq. By the time that the invasion of March 2003 began, the Israeli Mossad had more than 100 agents deployed for a decade in the northern Iraqi city of Mosul.

Intelligence reports of Iraqi ties to Al Qaeda were also traced to Mosul—reports that proved false. Mosul again emerged in November 2004 as a center of the insurgency that destabilized Iraq. That reaction precluded the speedy exit of coalition forces promised in Congressional testimony by senior war-planner Wolfowitz.

In the lead-up to the invasion, Wolfowitz assured policy-makers of a swift and welcome regime-change whose $50 billion cost would be recovered from the proceeds of Iraqi oil. Nobel laureate economist Joseph Stiglitz has since projected the total cost will exceed $3,000 billion, all of it borrowed. That total, 60 times the original estimate, includes $700 billion in interest paid on war-related debt.

An author, educator, attorney, merchant banker and adviser to policy-makers worldwide, Jeff Gates served as counsel to the U.S. Senate Committee on Finance (1980-87) prior to consulting 35 foreign governments. A Vietnam veteran, he is author of Guilt By Association, The Ownership Solution and Democracy at Risk.

Related:
Part 1: The Truth About America And Pakistan 
A Closer Look at Israel's Role in Terrorism 
Death By Political Correctness 
The Real Story of the Terrorist "Mad Doctor Hasan



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In this remarkable, balanced book, the author skillfully reviews and compares "traditional" and "revisionist" views on the "The Holocaust."

On one side is the traditional, orthodox view -- six million Jewish casualties, gas chambers, cremation ovens, mass graves, and thousands of witnesses. On the other is the view of a small band of skeptical writers and researchers, often unfairly labeled "deniers," who contend that the public has been gravely misled about this emotion-laden chapter of history.

The author establishes that the arguments and findings of revisionist scholars are substantive, and deserve serious consideration. He points out, for example, that even the eminent Jewish Holocaust scholar Raul Hilberg acknowledged that there was no budget, plan or order by Hitler for a World War II program to exterminate Europe's Jews.

This book is especially relevant right now, as "Holocaust deniers" are routinely and harshly punished for their "blasphemy," and as growing numbers of people regard the standard, Hollywoodized "Holocaust" narrative with mounting suspicion and distrust.

The author of this book, who writes under the pen name of "Thomas Dalton," is an American scholar who holds a doctoral degree from a major US university.

This is no peripheral debate between arcane views of some obscure aspect of twentieth century history. Instead, this is a clash with profound social-political implications regarding freedom of speech and press, the manipulation of public opinion, how our cultural life is shaped, and how power is wielded in our society.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_0_8?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=debating+the+holocaust&sprefix=DEBATING

Peace.

Michael Santomauro
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