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Jun 8, 2011

The Occidental Observer Newsletter - Guilt-tripping the Europeans by Kevin MacDonald and Pierre de Craon on creativity PLUS two blogs by Kevin MacDonald

 


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Fun stuff to read, tell and watch:

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FREE to watch all 91 minutes: "Defamation," from Israeli filmmaker Yoav Shamir. LINK: http://tinyurl.com/3rvhdvc

Some of His Best Friends Are Jewish: The Saga of a Holocaust Revisionist By Nathaniel Popper. Link: http://tinyurl.com/3v6m88c

...an Israeli lawyer has filed a class-action lawsuit against former President Jimmy Carter, seeking $5 million in damages because his book "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid" allegedly defamed Israel. Link: http://tinyurl.com/3pltqg2

"...when you have laws against questioning the Holocaust narrative, you are screaming at the other person to stop thinking!!!" ---Mike Santomauro. *Anthony Lawson's Holocaust Video "were the Germans so stupid"... Link: http://tinyurl.com/44nsrco

An anti-Semite condemns people for being Jews, I am not an anti-Semite.--Mike Santomauro. Link: http://tinyurl.com/42z9p8o

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Original Sept. 1919 Hitler letter purchased by LA Museum of Tolerance

 

From: hmarcuse <marcuse@history.ucsb.edu>
Date: Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 7:35 PM

Prof. Marcuse's website:

When Did Hitler Become an Anti-Semite?

 

 

Hitler's key letter on why antisemitism is important was just purchased for $150,000. See: http://tinyurl.com/3twtu6t

A translation of the letter itself can be found at:
http://www.h-net.org/~german/gtext/kaiserreich/hitler2.html

The letter is important because it is the first documented instance where Hitler said or did anything antisemitic. (Historians debate whether he became a rabid antisemite in Vienna before WW1, as he claims in Mein Kampf, or whether he began to espouse this ideology in Munich after the war.)

He wrote the letter in answer to an inquiry at the request of Captain Karl Mayr of the Reichswehr, who had hired him in the army's program of indoctrination of returning POWs and observation of political groups. Just four days before writing this letter, Hitler had attended a meeting of the DAP (which he would later rename NSDAP) for the first time. An interesting relic!

Harold


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Fun stuff to read, tell and watch:

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FREE to watch all 91 minutes: "Defamation," from Israeli filmmaker Yoav Shamir. LINK: http://tinyurl.com/3rvhdvc

Some of His Best Friends Are Jewish: The Saga of a Holocaust Revisionist By Nathaniel Popper. Link: http://tinyurl.com/3v6m88c

...an Israeli lawyer has filed a class-action lawsuit against former President Jimmy Carter, seeking $5 million in damages because his book "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid" allegedly defamed Israel. Link: http://tinyurl.com/3pltqg2

"...when you have laws against questioning the Holocaust narrative, you are screaming at the other person to stop thinking!!!" ---Mike Santomauro. *Anthony Lawson's Holocaust Video "were the Germans so stupid"... Link: http://tinyurl.com/44nsrco

An anti-Semite condemns people for being Jews, I am not an anti-Semite.--Mike Santomauro. Link: http://tinyurl.com/42z9p8o

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Yale Pulls the Plug on Useless Anti-Semitism Institute

 

http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Yale-C-123455979.html


Yale Pulls the Plug on Anti-Semitism Institute

Anti-Defamation League is upset about the decision.

Wednesday, Jun 8, 2011  |  Updated 7:04 PM EDT
Yale Pulls the Plug on Anti-Semitism Institute

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Yale University has discontinued its institute dedicated to the study of anti-semitism.

The Anti-Defamation League is balking at Yale's decision to eliminate its course of study on anti-semitism. 

A faculty review committee said the 5-year-old Yale Initiative for the Interdisciplinary Study of Anti-Semitism did not meet its standards on research and teaching, the New Haven Register reports,

The national director of the ADL said that, whatever the problems were, Yale should have tried to fix them, rather than shut down the program.

"Especially at a time when anti-Semitism continues to be virulent and anti-Israel parties treat any effort to address issues relating to anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism as illegitimate, Yale's decision is particularly unfortunate and dismaying," Abrahma Foxman said in a statement.

Political Science professor Donald Green told the Register that all programs are reviewed after five years on how well they promote interdisciplinary research and instruction at Yale.

"Little scholarly work appeared in top-tier journals in behavioral science, comparative politics, or history. Courses created in this area did not attract large numbers of students," Green said.
 




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Fun stuff to read, tell and watch:

Now
FREE to watch all 91 minutes: "Defamation," from Israeli filmmaker Yoav Shamir. LINK: http://tinyurl.com/3rvhdvc

Some of His Best Friends Are Jewish: The Saga of a Holocaust Revisionist By Nathaniel Popper. Link: http://tinyurl.com/3v6m88c

...an Israeli lawyer has filed a class-action lawsuit against former President Jimmy Carter, seeking $5 million in damages because his book "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid" allegedly defamed Israel. Link: http://tinyurl.com/3pltqg2

"...when you have laws against questioning the Holocaust narrative, you are screaming at the other person to stop thinking!!!" ---Mike Santomauro. *Anthony Lawson's Holocaust Video "were the Germans so stupid"... Link: http://tinyurl.com/44nsrco

An anti-Semite condemns people for being Jews, I am not an anti-Semite.--Mike Santomauro. Link: http://tinyurl.com/42z9p8o

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Catholic League president Bill Donohue is just as bad as ADL's Abe Foxman! "JON STEWART INSULTS CATHOLICS"--Bill get a life!

 

From the desk of Michael Santomauro: Catholic League president Bill Donohue is just as bad as ADL's Abe Foxman! He says "JON STEWART INSULTS CATHOLICS". I say "Bill get a life!"                 



                                                                             JON STEWART INSULTS CATHOLICS;
YAHOO! NEWS COVERS IT UP
 
On last night's episode of "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart," the host joked about Rep. Anthony Weiner's situation with correspondent John Oliver. During their skit, Stewart ridiculed Weiner by sipping frantically on a Margarita, imitating the way Weiner sips from a water bottle. 
 
Stewart then accidentally broke his glass. Oliver, seeing Stewart's hand bleeding, joked, "Don't be so Jewish about it. You're fine, you're absolutely fine." 
 
On Yahoo! News, in both the video clip and the news story, this is where the skit ends. But on the show, it continued with Stewart replying, "I should be Catholic." Next, referring to his blood, he offered, "I should turn this into a drink."
 
Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments as follows: 
 
Weiner sends porn pictures to strangers and his buddy Stewart laughs it off. This is to be expected as the ethical bar for people like Stewart and Weiner is quite low. But for Stewart to impulsively lash out at the heart of Catholicism—when discussing a subject that has nothing to do with it—reveals a side to him that is troubling. Indeed, it suggests that it doesn't take much to bring out the worst in Stewart: when the bigotry is visceral, the pus gushes to the surface at the slightest rub. Catholics deserve an apology. 
 
Moreover, Yahoo! News was singularly dishonest in the way it tried to paper over Stewart's insulting remark: it deliberately cut his offensive quip, knowing full well it would have put the skit in a totally different light. Catholics deserve an explanation.
 
Contact Comedy Central CEO Doug Herzog: doug.herzog@comedycentral.com
Contact Yahoo! News Blog Deputy Editor Chris Lehmann: chrisblehmann2@yahoo.com
 
Contact our director of communications about Donohue's remarks:
Jeff Field
 

 

 

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Fun stuff to read, tell and watch:

Now
FREE to watch all 91 minutes: "Defamation," from Israeli filmmaker Yoav Shamir. LINK: http://tinyurl.com/3rvhdvc

Some of His Best Friends Are Jewish: The Saga of a Holocaust Revisionist By Nathaniel Popper. Link: http://tinyurl.com/3v6m88c

...an Israeli lawyer has filed a class-action lawsuit against former President Jimmy Carter, seeking $5 million in damages because his book "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid" allegedly defamed Israel. Link: http://tinyurl.com/3pltqg2

"...when you have laws against questioning the Holocaust narrative, you are screaming at the other person to stop thinking!!!" ---Mike Santomauro. *Anthony Lawson's Holocaust Video "were the Germans so stupid"... Link: http://tinyurl.com/44nsrco

An anti-Semite condemns people for being Jews, I am not an anti-Semite.--Mike Santomauro. Link: http://tinyurl.com/42z9p8o

Peace.
Mike Santomauro
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new essay by petras - Afghanistan: Why Civilians are Killed - please confirm receipt of essay

 

Afghanistan:  Why Civilians are Killed

James Petras

Introduction:

            The recent rash of civilian killings by NATO forces in occupied Afghanistan raises several basic questions:  Why do US – NATO air and ground forces kill so many civilians, so persistently, over such long stretches of time, in regions throughout the country?  Why have the number of civilians killed, increased in the course of the conflict?  Why do NATO-US airplanes continue to bomb civilian housing and village gatherings and ground troops indiscriminately assault homes and workshops?  Why are the pleas of NATO collaborator President Karzai to desist in home bombings go unheeded?  Finally, knowing that the killing of civilians, entire families including children, mothers and the elderly alienates the local population and breeds widespread and profound hostility, why do the NATO-US military refuse to alter their tactics and strategy?

Explanations and Excuses for Civilian Killings:

            Apologists for the NATO killings of civilians are as abundant as their explanations are lacking in substance.  Pentagon spokespeople speak of “accidents”, “errors of war”, “collateral damage”; media pundits blame the guerrilla fighters for engaging in warfare in areas populated by civilians; neo-conservative academics and their “think tank” colleagues blame Islamic fundamentalism for converting villagers to their cause and “forcing” NATO to kill civilians in order to create martyrs and to use their deaths as a recruiting device.

            These patently superficial explanations raise more questions than answers, or in some cases, inadvertently refute the justification for the entire war.  The “error of war” argument begs a more basic question:  what kind of war is NATO-US engaged in that constantly finds the guerrillas ‘melting’ into the population, while the occupation breaks down doors and perceives each and every household as a possible sanctuary, or outpost of the resistance?  What kind of military relies on high altitude fighter planes and pilotless planes directed from distant command posts to attack population centers, in which commerce, farming and household economies engage the population?  Clearly only an army of occupation, an imperial army, is willing to repeatedly sacrifice a multitude of civilians to kill a single or a few suspected combatants.  Only a military operating in a hostile civilian environment is going to assume that lodged behind every door of every home there is an “enemy”; that every family is sheltering a combatant; that it is better to “go in shooting” then to risk a bullet in the gut.  ‘Accidents of war’ do not ‘just happen’ for an entire decade, covering an entire country.  The killing of civilians is a result of a war of imperial conquest against an entire people who resist the occupation in whatever form is appropriate to their circumstance. The pilots and ground troops recognize that they are a hostile alien force, whose presence is commanded from above by Generals and politicians dealing with abstract schemes of ‘terrorists-linked to Al Qaeda’ that have no relation to the dense web of personal bonds of solidarity between resistance fighters and civilians on the ground in Afghanistan.

            Working from these abstract categories, the strategists label extended family compounds as ‘hideouts’; family gatherings as ‘terrorist meetings’; trade caravans as ‘guerilla smugglers’.  The conflicting interests of the imperial politicians, generals, strategists and military officers on the one hand and the civilian population and resistance form an immense gap. The greater the number of civilian/combatants killed the faster the career advances for imperial officers –eager for promotions and prized pensions.  “Success”, according to the imperial world view is measured internationally by the number of client rulers; nationally by the number of flags pinned to the war maps denoting ‘secure cities’; and locally by the body counts of massacred families.

            On the ground, among the millions in intimate family and clan circles, where sorrow and anger co-exist, resistance in all of its manifold forms unfolds:  Sacred vows and the profane pledges to ‘fight on’ grow out of the millions of daily humiliations affecting young and old, wives and husbands, in homes, markets, roads and by-ways.  The hostile stare of a mother sheltering an infant from soldiers breaking into a bedroom is as telling as the crackle of gunfire of a sniper hidden in a mountain crevice.

A People’s War:  Not a War on Terror

            The killing of civilians is not “accidental”. The fundamental reason that so many civilians are killed, everyday, in every region for over a decade, is because the civilians and the combatants are indistinguishable.  The image of the Afghan combatants as some kind of footloose professional bomb throwing terrorist is completely off the mark.  Most Afghan fighters have families, cultivate farmland and tend herds; they raise families and attend mosque; they are ‘part-time civilians’ and part-time fighters.  Only in the schematic minds of the “great strategists of war” in the Pentagon and NATO headquarters do such distinctions exist.  Their deadly military mission to ‘save the people from terrorist fundamentalists’, a self-serving self-deception, is, in fact, a ladder up the military-political hierarchy. Each step up depends on waging a ‘just war’ to a successful conclusion.

            The civilian-combatants are a mass popular phenomenon. How else can we explain their capacity to sustain armed resistance for over a decade, indeed, advancing with the passing of time? How can we explain their military success against the armed forces and advisers from 40 countries, including the US, Europe and a clutch of Afro-Asian-Latin American mercenaries?  How can we explain the growing resistance despite suffering from military occupation, backed by the most advanced technological instruments of war?  How can we explain the ebb of popular support for the war in the ‘Conqueror’s country and the growing number of recruits for the Resistance?  The combatants have the loyalty of the Afghan people; they do not have to spend billions to buy the spurious ‘loyalties’ of mercenaries who can and have at any moment ‘turned their guns the other way’. 

Weddings are bombed because combatants attend weddings – along with hundreds of relatives and friends. Villages are bombed because peasants cultivate crops, which contribute to the resistance.  Civilian shelters become military sanctuaries.  Afghanistan is polarized:  the US military versus a people in arms.  Faced with this reality, the real policy of NATO-Pentagon is to rule or/and ruin.  Each bomb killing dozens of civilians in search of one sharpshooter deepens the isolation and discredit of the puppet ruler. “President” Karzai has seen his mission of building a ‘civilian base’ to reconstruct the country utterly discredited. His impotent complaints to NATO to cease bombing civilian targets fall on deaf ears; because the NATO command knows very well that ‘the civilians’ are the ‘deep resistance’ – the vast reserve of support for the combatants; their eyes and ears far excel all the electronic intelligence devices of the Occupier.  Just as Karzai cannot convince the civilians to turn against the combatants so he cannot convince the imperial armies to stop bombing civilian homes and gatherings.

            Washington knows that with each withdrawal (or retreat), the terrain, the towns and villages are occupied by resistance fighters who emerge from everywhere.  The best that the US-NATO politicians can negotiate is a safe orderly departure.  The best that they can hope is that their local collaborators do not defect or flee abroad prematurely turning over billions of dollars in military ordinance to the resistance.  The best the collaborators can hope is that they will secure an exit route, a visa, an overseas account and a comfortable second home abroad.  What is absolutely clear is that the US, NATO and its collaborators will have no role to play in the newly independent Afghanistan.

 

           

 

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Weiner repeatedly lied (about Israel and Palestine– does anyone care?)

 


Weiner repeatedly lied (about Israel and Palestine– does anyone care?)

by PHILIP WEISS on JUNE 7, 2011








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Fun stuff to read, tell and watch:

Now FREE to watch all 91 minutes: "Defamation," from Israeli filmmaker Yoav Shamir. LINK: http://tinyurl.com/3rvhdvc

Some of His Best Friends Are Jewish: The Saga of a Holocaust Revisionist By Nathaniel Popper. Link: http://tinyurl.com/3v6m88c

...an Israeli lawyer has filed a class-action lawsuit against former President Jimmy Carter, seeking $5 million in damages because his book "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid" allegedly defamed Israel. Link: http://tinyurl.com/3pltqg2

"...when you have laws against questioning the Holocaust narrative, you are screaming at the other person to stop thinking!!!" ---Mike Santomauro. *Anthony Lawson's Holocaust Video "were the Germans so stupid"... Link: http://tinyurl.com/44nsrco

An anti-Semite condemns people for being Jews, I am not an anti-Semite.--Mike Santomauro. Link: http://tinyurl.com/42z9p8o

Peace.

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Israeli Jew turned Catholic priest named head of papal court - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

 



Crypto-Judaism in the Catholic Church

Posted: 07 Jun 2011 01:44 PM PDT


An article in Haaretz ("Israeli Jew turned Catholic priest named head of papal court") describes one David Maria Jaeger who "converted" from Judaism to Catholicism and will now become a member of the highest court in the Vatican. The word 'converted' is in quotes because it's apparent that Jaeger has in no sense ceased being a Jew. Jaeger was born in Tel Aviv and had a Jewish religious education before assuming his high position in the Church.


[A prominent Israeli professor comments:] "He is a special man. … He's told me about his deep ties to Israel. We didn't delve deeply into the reasons for his Christianity. He only gave hints."
When Jaeger was asked yesterday whether he feels Israeli, he replied, "at least as much as you do," adding, "I'm just like any Israeli citizen who works for an international organization situated outside the country – just like there are Israelis at the International Monetary Fund in Washington, the UN in New York or UNESCO in Paris. I am in a supra-national international body, that's the only the difference."
"I'm a loyal and patriotic son of our people and our country," he said. "After all, that was the whole point of the Jewish people's emancipation in the 19th century, that we would become a nation, not a religious minority among gentiles. A person can live according to his conscience, he can not believe in any religious faith or believe in one rather than another, all according to his own intellectual conscience."

It is stunning that a very prominent Catholic has a deep Jewish identity and thinks of the Church as just another non-governmental international organization. The ceremony for his ascendancy in Rome will be attended by his sister Leah, an Israeli citizen, bringing a sculpture by Menashe Kadishman, a famous Israeli sculptor. He served as legal adviser to the delegation that negotiated the Vatican's Fundamental Agreement with Israel–sort of like having Dennis Ross negotiate with the Israelis on behalf of the U.S.
Beginning in the 15th century in Spain, people like Jaeger were called Conversos or Marranos (pigs)—Jews who had the appearance but not the reality of having converted to Catholicism. The Inquisition was designed to ferret such people out and subject them to penalties.  Indeed, a major problem in the eyes of the Inquisition was that the Church itself had been infiltrated by Jews pretending to be Catholics (see here, p. 118; I deal with Jewish apologia on the Inquisition, including denials that crypto-Jews had infiltrated the Catholic Church here, p227ff).

During the centuries of the Inquisition, the Church acted as if it was much more than an international NGO. It was a community of faith where ethnic networking on behalf of non-believers was the ultimate betrayal. In the contemporary world, crypto-Judaism in the Church results in high office and, who knows, perhaps election as the next pope. (Jaeger is so upfront about identifying as a Jew that perhaps calling him a crypto-Jew is inaccurate. Making statements like Jaeger's could only have been a death wish during the period of the Inquisition.)  Whatever the past successes of the Church in defense of our people, the appointment of a strongly identified Jew to a position in the Church hierarchy is certainly a bad sign indeed of the state of Catholicism in the contemporary world.







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Fun stuff to read, tell and watch:

Now FREE to watch all 91 minutes: "Defamation," from Israeli filmmaker Yoav Shamir. LINK: http://tinyurl.com/3rvhdvc

Some of His Best Friends Are Jewish: The Saga of a Holocaust Revisionist By Nathaniel Popper. Link: http://tinyurl.com/3v6m88c

...an Israeli lawyer has filed a class-action lawsuit against former President Jimmy Carter, seeking $5 million in damages because his book "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid" allegedly defamed Israel. Link: http://tinyurl.com/3pltqg2

"...when you have laws against questioning the Holocaust narrative, you are screaming at the other person to stop thinking!!!" ---Mike Santomauro. *Anthony Lawson's Holocaust Video "were the Germans so stupid"... Link: http://tinyurl.com/44nsrco

An anti-Semite condemns people for being Jews, I am not an anti-Semite.--Mike Santomauro. Link: http://tinyurl.com/42z9p8o

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Re: How foolish America is to turn their backs on Israel...

 

James remarked: "Actually, the oldest historical claim that Hebrews (as a distinct people) have goes back to about 700 BC or so. Much of their history, like the captivity in Egypt, is a myth..."
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Jewish claims regarding their "biblical" origins are manifest malarkey... but James's explanation needs some further comment.

Because numbers of Jews lived in Spain & Germany it does not follow that a genetic link with the indigenous people exists (for which there is no evidence) any more than the presence of large numbers of Blacks or Asians in America demonstrates a genetic connection between them and the European ethnic majority.

A very germane comment on Jewish origins was made by H. G. Wells, in his "Outline of History":

"There can be little doubt that the scattered Phoenicians in Spain and Africa and throughout the Mediterranean, speaking as they did a language closely akin to Hebrew and being deprived of their authentic political rights, became proselytes to Judaism.  For phases of vigorous proselytism alternated with phases of exclusive jealousy in Jewish history.  On one occasion the Idumeans, being conquered, were all forcibly made Jews.  There were Arab tribes that were Jews in the time of Mohammed, and a Turkish people (Khazars) who were mainly Jews in South Russia in the ninth century.  Judaism is indeed the reconstructed political ideal of many shattered peoples - mainly Semitic.  It is to the Phoenician contingent and to the Aramean accessions in Babylon that the financial and commercial traditions of the Jews is to be ascribed.  But as a result of these coalescences and assimilations, almost everywhere in the towns throughout the Roman Empire, and far beyond it in the east, Jewish communities traded and flourished, and were kept in touch through the Bible, and through a religious and educational organization.  The main part of Jewry never was in Judea and had never come out of Judea. 
-- H. G. Wells, The Outline of History, Book VI - Christianity and Islam. © 1920,1949
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Prof. Roland B. Dixon, of Harvard, wrote in 1923, "The most important single factor, however, in the differentiation of the Asiatic borderland... was the conversion to Judaism in the eighth century of the Khazars.  In these (Khazars)... we may in all probability see the origin of the great mass of the east European Jews of today."
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Arthur Koestler wrote:
"The general picture that emerges from these fragmentary pieces of information is of a migration of Khazar tribes and communities into those regions of Eastern Europe - mainly Russia and Poland- where at the dawn of the Modern Age, the greatest concentrations of Jews were found.  This has led several historians to conjecture that a substantial part, and perhaps the majority of eastern Jews - and hence of world Jewry - might be of Khazar and not of Semitic origin."
-- Arthur Koestler, The Thirteenth Tribe (1976), pp. 15,16
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Alfred Lilienthal wrote:
"That the Khazars are the lineal ancestors of Eastern European Jewry is an historical fact.  Jewish historians and religious textbooks acknowledge the fact, though the propagandists of Jewish nationalism belittle it as pro-Arab propaganda."
-- Alfred Lilienthal, What Price Israel, Henry Regnery (1953), p. 222
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Col. John Beaty wrote:
"As time passed, it came about that these Khazar people of mixed non-Russian stock, who hated the Russians and lived under Babylonian Talmudic law, became known in the western world, from their place of residence and their legal-religious code, as Russian Jews."
-- Col. John Beaty, Iron Curtain Over America (1951), p. 20
Tens of thousands of these non-Israelite 'Jews' migrated to America prior to 1880. Millions have come since.
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More recently, Israeli Historian Shlomo Sand wrote, "The Invention of the Jewish People."
Sand wrote, "I don't think that the historical myth of the exile and the wanderings is the source of the legitimization for me being here (in Israel), and therefore I don't mind believing that I am Khazar in my origins. I am not afraid of the undermining of our existence, because I think that the character of the State of Israel undermines it in a much more serious way. What would constitute the basis for our existence here is not mythological historical right, but rather would be for us to start to establish an open society here of all Israeli citizens."
In effect Sand is saying that there is no such thing as a Jewish people.

Sand wrote further: "In the Israeli discourse about roots there is a degree of perversion.
This is an ethnocentric, biological, genetic discourse. But Israel has no existence as a Jewish state: If Israel does not develop and become an open, multicultural society we will have a Kosovo in the Galilee. The consciousness concerning the right to this place must be more flexible and varied, and if I have contributed with my book to the likelihood that I and my children will be able to live with the others here in this country in a more egalitarian situation – I will have done my bit."
-- Shlomo Sand, The Invention of the Jewish People (2009)
(Source: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/966952.html)

There may be many questions concerning who the Jewish people are,
but there can be no serious question as to who they are NOT.
- Jack Martin
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Memo: 

Actually, the oldest historical claim that Hebrews (as a distinct people) have goes back to about 700 BC or so. Much of their history, like the captivity in Egypt, is a myth. The most ancient Hebrews were just a Bedouin tribe... that is, Arabs. There ia good argument that the first Jews, as Jews, were those who rejected Jesus Christ. It was their hatred that made them a new nation and an example to Christians of a people lost to evil.


The southern Palestinians are in part descendants of the Sea Peoples defeated by Ramses in 1700 BC or 2000 BC, depending on how you count. The balance are the indigenous people of the area.

The Oriental Jews (MIzrahi) are genetically identical to Palestinians, so arguing that Mizrahi or Palestinians are the oldest is useless since they are the same people, more or less. Sephardim are Spaniards (which is the meaning of the word Sephardim) and Ashkenazi are mainly Germans (40% genetically Germans, plus other stuff).

As for the Nakba, if documentation means anything, more Palestinians can be documented to have died in the Nakba than Jews can be documented to have died in Auschwitz.

This source is just a bunch of lies and half truths. Still, thanks for send it. I always read the other side.

James


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