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Oct 30, 2010

George Bush thought 9/11 plane had been shot down on his orders

 

George Bush thought 9/11 plane had been shot down on his orders

Memoirs reveal former US president gave order to shoot down any hijacked planes before United Airlines flight 93 crashed

George Bush
George Bush initially thought United Airlines flight 93 had been shot down in Pennsylvania. Photograph: Jason Reed/Reuters

George Bush initially believed the only plane not to reach its intended target during the 11 September attacks had been shot down on his orders, according to leaks from the former president's memoir of his two terms in office.

Bush reveals that he gave the order for any further suspected hijacked planes to be shot down after the first aircraft were flown into the World Trade Centre in New York during the 2001 terror attacks.

He at first thought the crash of United Airlines flight 93 in Pennsylvania had resulted from this instruction, although it later emerged that passengers had stormed the cockpit as hijackers flew the plane towards the Capitol building in Washington.

The memoir, Decision Points, is due to be published on 9 November, in the aftermath of the US midterm elections, and Bush is already lined up for interviews on the Oprah Winfrey and NBC Today shows.

The Drudge Report website says the very personal book opens with the line: "It was a simple question: 'Can you remember the last day you didn't have a drink?'" as Bush deals with the well-known issue of his alcohol consumption.

His drinking has previously been said to have come to an end when he woke up with a hangover following his 40th birthday celebrations.

In a chapter about stem cell research, he describes receiving a letter from Nancy Reagan detailing a "wrenching family journey", but says: "I did feel a responsibility to voice my pro-life convictions and lead the country toward what Pope John Paul II called a culture of life."

Bush goes on to describes an emotional July 2001 meeting with the Pope, who had Parkinson's disease, at the pontiff's summer residence.

The Pope reportedly recognised the promise of science but implored Bush to support life in all its forms.

At the pontiff's funeral in 2005, Bush – after a reminder from his wife, Laura, that it was a time to "pray for miracles" – said a prayer for the ABC news anchor Peter Jennings, who had cancer.

The book is said to stay clear of criticising Barack Obama, and a source told the Drudge Report: "You will find the president strong, loving life, and ultimately at peace with the decisions he made."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/29/george-bush-thought-9-11-plane-shot-down

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Original New Hampshire newspaper article dated September 13th, 2001.

Thursday, September 13, 2001

FAA worker says hijacked jetliners almost collided before striking World Trade Center

By ALBERT McKEON, Telegraph Staff
mckeona@telegraph-nh.com
<b>Staff photo by Dean Shalhoup</b><br>Several Nashua police officers block the entrance to the Boston Air Traffic Control Center on Northeastern Boulevard in Nashua Tuesday morning where they rushed shortly after two passenger aircraft that departed from Boston crashed into the World Trade Center buildings in New York.
Staff photo by Dean Shalhoup
Several Nashua police officers block the entrance to the Boston Air Traffic Control Center on Northeastern Boulevard in Nashua Tuesday morning where they rushed shortly after two passenger aircraft that departed from Boston crashed into the World Trade Center buildings in New York.
 


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The two hijacked jets that sliced into the World Trade Center nearly crashed into each other before reaching New York City, according to a Federal Aviation Administration employee who works in the Nashua control facility.

FAA air traffic controllers in Nashua have learned through discussions with other controllers that an F-16 fighter stayed in hot pursuit of another hijacked commercial airliner until it crashed in Pennsylvania, said the employee, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

By 10:30 a.m. on Tuesday, the military had taken control of U.S. airspace, the employee said. The jet crashed into a field at 10:37 a.m.

The incidents fell in line with a handful of incredible and unprecedented events that unfolded in America on Tuesday, said the employee, who worked in the control center that fateful morning. The center is one of 20 FAA facilities that monitor long-distance flights once they leave airports.

The morning's surreal moments included a controller, who had just arrived for work, discovering that his wife's American Airline flight was involved in the day of terror, the employee said.

Controllers never expected that the terrorists who hijacked the plane had their sights set on the north tower of the World Trade Center, the employee said.

Even as the tower burned, controllers still hadn't concluded that another hijacked plane - United Airlines Flight 175 - would slam into the other New York skyscraper, the employee said.

The terrorists, however, nearly had their plans dashed when the two planes almost collided outside the city, the employee said. "The two aircraft got too close to each other down by Stewart" International Airport in New Windsor, N.Y., the employee said.

Controllers have also learned that an F-16 fighter closely pursued hijacked United Airlines Flight 93 until it crashed in southwestern Pennsylvania, the employee said.

Although controllers don't have complete details of the Air Force's chase of the Boeing 757, they have learned the F-16 made 360-degree turns to remain close to the commercial jet, the employee said.

"He must've seen the whole thing," the employee said of the F-16 pilot's view of Flight 93's crash.

One air traffic controller - with the help of an assistant - monitored the flight patterns of the two jets that toppled the World Trade Center, the employee said. He directed American Airlines Flight 11 and United Airlines Flight 175 - both Boeing 767 jets that had Boston to Los Angeles routes, the employee said.

The same controller handled Egypt Air Flight 990 when it crashed off the coast of Massachusetts in 1999, the employee said. Hijackers gained control of American Airlines Flight 11 around Gardner, Mass., the employee said. "American was just flying around, doing what it wanted," the employee said of the jet's approach to New York.

United Airlines Flight 175 remained in the hands of its pilots until Albany, N.Y., the employee said. Terrorists apparently seized United Airlines Flight 93 late in its interrupted route, the employee said.

The controller in charge of flights 11 and 175 noticed the American Airlines plane had encountered difficulties when its transponder - the device that sends an electrical radar pulse to air traffic control centers - shut off, the employee said. At that point, the plane veered from its course west, the employee said.

Soon after, the controller realized a hijacker stood in the cockpit when the plane's captain - John Ogonowski of Dracut, Mass. - turned on his microphone, the employee said. Ogonowski activated the microphone so the FAA could hear the terrorists' threats, the employee said.

The controller heard someone instruct, "'Nobody do anything stupid'" and no one would get hurt, the employee said. After that, the controller heard no more conversations, the employee said.

"That's all that was heard," the employee said. When it became apparent the plane had fallen into the hands of hijackers, a third controller began helping the controller and his assistant, a procedure followed during all hijackings, the employee said. FAA controllers also notified concerned government organizations such as the military, the employee said.

Then, controllers shut down all other air traffic quickly, the employee said.

But many of the aircraft didn't immediately answer FAA calls, the employee said.

Planes flying through the Nashua center's airspace on their way to Georgia or Florida were told to land at other airports and avoid the airspace of the hijacked flights, the employee said.

The controller spoke with United Airlines Flight 175 for quite some time after terrorists took command of American Airlines Flight 11, the employee said. FAA controllers never expected Flight 175 to hit the second World Trade Center tower because of that sustained contact with the crew, the employee said.

"It's not in anyone's mind they're hitting a target," the employee said. "When somebody takes a plane over, they try to negotiate a release with money," the employee said.

Many controllers also watched events unfold on the control center's television, the employee said.

"After the first plane hit, nobody imagined it would happen again," the employee said. "We all thought that was it. It totally caught everybody off guard."

The controller is "pretty disturbed" that he lost both planes, the employee said. He handled both flights because they shared similar routes on their intended journey to Los Angeles, the employee said.

Other controllers will handle the disasters in other ways, the employee said.

But controllers can feel rather helpless after such a tragedy because they "are just a voice in the air," the employee said. "You can't do anything."

Controllers will rally around each other, the employee said. Controllers are very supportive of one another, the employee said.

They are "like family - sitting shoulder to shoulder 40 hours a week," the employee said.

The employee wouldn't identify the controller who lost his wife, or her name.

She was a businesswoman who had just missed her flight the night before, the employee said.

"We're waiting to see what happens next," the employee said of the country's concern about the potential of more terrorist air attacks. "It pretty much opens the door to a bunch of stuff going on," the employee said of the terrorists' use of planes as weapons.

Albert McKeon can be reached at 249-3339.

http://www.web.archive.org/web/20031018152433/http://www.investigate911.com/flight93.htm

 
The FBI's later explanation for the white jet was that a passing civilian Fairchild Falcon 20 jet was asked to descend from 34,000ft to 5,000ft some minutes after the crash to give co-ordinates for the site. The plane and pilot have never been produced or identified. Susan Mcelwain says a Falcon 20 was not the plane she saw.
 
The FBI insists there was no military plane in the area but at 9.22am a sonic boom - caused by a supersonic jet - was picked up by an earthquake monitor in southern Pennsylvania, 60 miles away from Shanksville.
 
2) Lee Purbaugh: There was another plane," Lee said. "I didn't get a good look but it was white and it circled the area about twice and then it flew off over the horizon."
 
3) Tom Spinelli: "I saw the white plane," "It was flying around all over the place like it was looking for something. I saw it before and after the crash."
 
4) Dennis Decker, 5) Rick Chaney: About a mile north on Buckstown Road, Dennis Decker and Rick Chaney were at work making wooden pallets when they heard an explosion and came running outside to watch a large mushroom cloud spreading over the ridge." As soon as we looked up, we saw a midsized jet flying low and fast," Decker said. "It appeared to make a loop or part of a circle, and then it turned fast and headed out. " Decker and Chaney described the plane as a Lear-jet type, with engines mounted near the tail and painted white with no identifying markings. "If you were here to see it, you'd have no doubt," Decker said. "It was a jet plane, and it had to be flying real close when that 757 went down. If I was the FBI, I'd find out who was driving that plane. "
 
6) Robin Doppstadt: Robin Doppstadt was working inside her family food-and-supply store when she heard the crash. When she went outside, she said, she saw a small white jet that looked like it was making a single circle over the crash site. "Then it climbed very quickly and took off. "
 
7) Dale Browning who witnessed the white plane, "the damndest darn thing", remarked:
"Everybody's seen this thing in the sky, but no one can tell us what it is."
 
8) Jim Brant: Mr. Brant and two of his employees arrived at the site in minutes , hoping to help survivors. He said he noticed a white plane, perhaps a jet, circling the wreckage. "It reminded me of a fighter jet," he said. He said it stayed there for one or two minutes before leaving. "The plane had no markings on it, either civilian or military."
 
9) John Feegle: "It didn't look like a commercial plane," Feegle said. "It had a real goofy tail on it, like a high tail. It circled around, and it was gone." "The aircraft appeared to have an unusually tall vertical stabilizer."
 
THE PHILADELPHIA DAILY NEWS:
 
10) Kathy Blades and her son ran outside after the crash and saw the jet, with sleek back wings and an angled cockpit, race overhead.

Here is the text as it once appeared at PittsburghLive.com (Pittsburgh's website)
on Friday September 14th, 2001. The first page still online:
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/images/static/pdf/gtr091401.pdf

Authorities deny Flight 93
was shot down by F-16

By Richard Gazarik and Robin Acton
TRIBUNE-REVIEW


Federal investigators hope the flight data recorder recovered from United
Airlines Flight 93 will reveal what caused the Boeing 757 jetliner to crash into
an abandoned Somerset County strip mine in a deadly sequence of terrorist
attacks.

FBI Agent William Crowley announced Thursday afternoon that investigators using
heavy equipment found the recorder in a crater at the crash site near
Lambertsville in Stonycreek Township.

The device that electronically records the aircraft's instruments in the final
moments before a plane crashes was packaged for transport to Washington, D.C.,
for analysis by officials from the National Transportation Safety Board, Crowley
said.

Searchers yesterday also found one of the hijacked jetliner's engines. But by
evening, the cockpit voice recorder had not been recovered.

Meanwhile, speculation continued to swirl around reports that a military fighter
jet was seen in the vicinity immediately after the crash.

According to the Nashua (N.H.) Telegraph, FAA employees at an air-traffic
control center near Boston learned from controllers at other facilities that an
F-16 "stayed in hot pursuit" of the 757.

By 10:30 a.m. Tuesday, the Air Force had taken control of all U.S. airspace, the
unidentified controller told the Telegraph. A few minutes later, the Boeing
crashed in Stonycreek Township.

The F-16 made 360-degree turns to stay close to the 757, the Telegraph reported.
"He must've seen the whole thing," the FAA employee said of the F-16's pilot.

Crowley confirmed that there were two other aircraft within 25 miles of the
United flight that were heading east when it crashed, scattering debris over 8
miles.

He did not know the types of planes, nor could he discuss the altitudes at which
they were flying.

Military planes sometimes "shadow" airliners that are in trouble or have lost
radio communications, as part of efforts to re-establish contact.

An Air Force spokeswoman at North American Aerospace Defense Command in
Colorado, Capt. Adriane Craig, said the military could neither confirm nor deny
whether an airplane was following the United 757.

Neither NORAD nor the Air Force releases information about where its jets are
flying at any given time, or what their patrol routes are over metropolitan
areas, Craig said.

Crowley discounted rumors that the military shot down the jetliner in a sparsely
populated area to keep it away from the White House and other possible targets
in Washington, D.C.

"There was no military involvement," Crowley said.

NORAD issued its own denial yesterday afternoon, "confirm(ing) that the United
Airlines jetliner that crashed outside Somerset ... was not downed by a U.S.
military aircraft."

"NORAD-allocated forces have not engaged with weapons any aircraft, including
Flight 93," the statement said.

A Canadian aviation expert told the Tribune-Review that the concept of a U.S.
Air Force jet shooting down the 757 "seems a bit bizarre."


"It's not a very palatable piece of news for the American public," said Victor
Ujimoro, a professor of aviation management at the University of Western
Ontario.

Although Ujimoro said he doubted the rumor was true, he could understand why "it
may not be too far-fetched of a hypothesis to entertain."

"There (were) already other aircraft hitting the Trade Center," Ujimoro said.
"The third plane flew from Dulles to the Pentagon, and the fourth plane (Flight
93) is possibly going to Camp David."

Testifying before the Senate Armed Services Committee yesterday, President
Bush's nominee for Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said fighters and other
aircraft were mobilized Tuesday in response to the hijackings.

Air Force Gen. Richard Myers emphatically denied that Flight 93 was shot down.

"The armed forces did not shoot down any aircraft," he said. "When it became
clear what the threat was, we did scramble fighter aircraft, AWACS radar
aircraft and tanker aircraft to begin to establish orbits in case other aircraft
showed up in the FAA system that were hijacked, but we never actually had to use
force."

Investigators have not ruled out the possibility that the terrorists had a bomb
on board the plane, the FBI's Crowley said.

"We have no information to lead us either way. We need them (the flight
recorders) to determine if that happened," he said.

Crowley said evidence recovery teams will continue to look for the cockpit voice
recorder. Known as "black boxes," the recorders are encased in orange containers
designed to withstand the impact of a crash.

The flight data recorder can tell investigators such things as the speed of the
aircraft, its altitude, the amount of fuel and the position of its rudders and
flaps. Impact is supposed to trigger a transponder that emits an electronic
signal that enables searchers to track its location on the ground.

Crowley said the recorders from Flight 93 did not send out any emissions. It was
discovered by an "integrated search team" of state police and federal
investigators using heavy equipment to unearth the device from the crater cut
into the ground on impact.

The discovery of the flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorders are
critical to determining the cause of the crash, according to U.S. Rep. John
Murtha, a Johnstown Democrat, who visited the scene Wednesday morning.

Murtha said he was told that conversations overheard by air traffic controllers
at the Cleveland FAA center revealed that there was a struggle going on inside
the cockpit, perhaps between members of the flight crew and the hijackers armed
with plastic knives and boxcutters.

"We have not seen anything to contradict this," Crowley added.

A passenger, Mark Bingham, 31, of San Francisco, Calif., was able to call
Westmoreland County 911 and tell a communications officer that the plane had
been hijacked and the terrorists had a bomb.

There was a sound of an explosion before 911 lost contact with Bingham.

An evidence collection team comprising technicians from several different
federal law enforcement agencies has been working since Tuesday, collecting
parts of the airplane and human remains, as well as searching for the recorders.

Forensic archaeologists and anthropologists were among experts who came to the
site yesterday to aid investigators in searching the wide debris field to help
retrieve potential evidence and human remains.

Crowley said the FBI and NTSB have not determined whether a bomb exploded inside
the aircraft before it crashed. Residents of nearby Indian Lake reported seeing
debris falling from the jetliner as it overflew the area shortly before
crashing.

State police Maj. Lyle Szupinka said investigators also will be searching a pond
behind the crash site looking for the other recorder and other debris. If
necessary, divers may be brought in to assist search teams, or the pond may be
drained, he said.

Szupinka said searchers found one of the large engines from the aircraft "at a
considerable distance from the crash site."

"It appears to be the whole engine," he added.

Szupinka said most of the remaining debris, scattered over a perimeter that
stretches for several miles, are in pieces no bigger than a "briefcase."

"If you were to go down there, you wouldn't know that was a plane crash," he
continued. "You would look around and say, `I wonder what happened here?' The
first impression looking around you wouldn't say, `Oh, looks like a plane crash.
The debris is very, very small.

"The best I can describe it is if you've ever been to a commercial landfill.
When it's covered and you have papers flying around. You have papers blowing
around and bits and pieces of shredded metal. That's probably about the best way
to describe that scene itself."

Tribune-Review staff writer Jason Togyer and The Associated Press contributed to
this story.

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'US-led soldiers traffic Afghan drugs'

 

'US-led soldiers traffic Afghan drugs'
Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:1PM
 
US-led soldiers in Afghanistan are reportedly engaged in smuggling heroin and other drugs out of the country, a British newspaper says.


According to a report published in British newspaper The Sunday Times, British soldiers at Camp Bastion in Helmand province and Canadian soldiers based at Kandahar airport may have been involved in trafficking drugs.

Camp Bastion and Kandahar airport are the two main airports carrying soldiers in and out of Afghanistan.

The British government said it was looking into claims that the soldiers may have smuggled heroin out of the war-torn country.

"Although they are unsubstantiated, we take any such reports very seriously and we have already tightened our existing procedures both in Afghanistan and in the UK, including through increasing the use of trained sniffer dogs," a British Ministry of Defense spokeswoman told the newspaper.

"We regret any inconvenience this causes to our service personnel. Any of our people found to be engaged in trafficking of illegal narcotics will feel the full weight of the law," she further added.

However, the Canadian Department of National Defense (DND) denied these accusations as false allegations.

"We've conferred with the Royal Military Police as well as our Canadian Forces military police contingent in Kandahar," DND spokeswoman Jenn Gearey told The Toronto Star newspaper on Monday morning.

"If we feel an investigation is warranted, we'll launch one," she added.

The claims are particularly embarrassing for the British military, considering their previous involvement in efforts to eradicate poppy crop, the Press TV's correspondent in London said on Monday.

Back in 2001, the opium production --from which heroin is derived --was at an all time low, but following the US invasion of the country, the poppy fields returned and production outstripped previous levels.

An anonymous Afghan drug dealer told Press TV that military personnel are the second largest buyers after foreign drug lords and said that they [military personnel] tend to place orders before they return home to the US or the UK.

Last week the British Ministry of Defense said coalition forces seized over one billion dollars worth of heroin in Afghanistan.

Afghanistan is reportedly the source of ninety percent of the world's heroin.

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Oct 29, 2010

Gilad rejects Jewish Left

 

Gilad Atzmon: Zionist Tolerance For a Change

DateFriday, October 29, 2010 at 8:24PM AuthorGilad Atzmon

I have spent the last ten years elaborating on Jewish national ideology and tribal politics.  During my journey of grasping what Zionism and Israel stand for, I came to realize that it is actually the Jewish left -- and Jewish Marxists in particular -- that provide us with an adequate glimpse into contemporary Jewish identity,  tribal supremacy,  marginal politics and tribalism.

'Jewish left' is basically an oxymoron. It is a contradiction in terms, because 'Jewishness' is a tribal ideology, whilst 'the left' are traditionally understood as aspiring to universalism. 

On the face of it, the 'Jewish left' is, at least categorically, no different from Israel or Zionism: after all, it is an attempt to form yet another 'Jews only political club'.  And as  far as the Palestinian solidarity movement is concerned, its role is subject to a growing debate -- For  on the one hand, one can see the political benefit of pointing at a very few 'good Jews', and emphasizing that there are Jews who 'oppose Zionism as Jews'. Yet on the other hand, however, accepting the legitimacy of such a racially orientated political affair, is in itself, an acceptance of yet another form, or manifestation of Zionism, for Zionism claims that Jews are primarily Jewish, and had better operate politically as Jews(1).

To a certain extent then, it is clear that Jewish anti Zionism, is, in itself, still just another  form of Zionism.

'Jewish dissidence' has two main roles: First, it attempts to depict and bolster a positive image of Jews in general (2). Second, it is there to silence and obscure any attempts on the part of the outsider to grasp the meaning of Jewish identity and Jewish politics within the machinations of the Jewish state. It is also there to stop elements in this movement from elaborating on the crucial role of Jewish lobbying. 

The Jewish Left is there then, to mute any possible criticism of Jewish politics within the wider Left movements.  It is there to stop the Goyim from looking into Jewish affairs.

A decade ago I met the Kosher dissident brigade for the first time -- As soon as I started to  express criticism of Israel and Zionism -- they started to  bounce around me. 

For a short while, I fitted nicely into their  discourse : I was young  and energetic.   I was an award winning musician, as well as a promising writer. In their eyes I was a celebrity, or at least a good reason to celebrate.  Their chief commissars reserved  the best, and most expensive dining tables ahead  of my Orient House's  Ensemble concerts. The five grass-root penniless activists, followed the trend and came to my free stage Jazz Combo  afternoon  concerts in the Barbican Centre's Foyer.  They all wanted to believe that I would follow their agenda, and become a commissar myself.  They were also very quick  to preach to me who were the 'bad guys', those who should be burnt in hell: Israel Shahak, Paul EisenIsrael Shamir and Otto Weininger were just a few amongst the many baddies.  As one may guess by now, it didn't take me too long to admit to myself that there was more wisdom in a single sentence  by Eisen, Weininger, Shahak or Shamir than in the entire work of the Jewish Left  put together. I was quick to make it clear to my new 'Red' fans that it was not going to work : I was an ex-Israeli, and I no longer regarded myself as a Jew any more. I shared nothing with them and I did not believe in their agenda.  Indeed, I had left Israel because I wanted to drift as far away as I could from any form of tribal politics. 

Paddling in chicken soup has never been  my thing.

Naturally, I bought  myself at least a half a dozen enemies, and they were quick to run a campaign against me. They tried to silence me; they desperately ( and hopelessly ) tried to wreck my music career; they mounted pressure on political institutions, media outlets,  and music venues.  One of them even tried to drag me to court.

But they failed all the way through and they failed on every possible level. The more pressure they mounted, the more people read my writing. At a certain point, people around me were convinced that my detractors were actually running my PR campaign. Moreover, the relentless attempts to silence me could only prove my point. They were there to divert attention away from the crucial role of Jewish politics and Jewish identity politics.

I have asked myself often enough -- how is it that they failed with me? But I guess that the same internet that successfully defeated Israeli Hasbara, has also defeated the Jewish left and its hegemony within the movement. In the wider scheme of things, it is totally obvious how marginal the Jewish Marxist discourse is. Its voice within the dissident movement is, in actuality, insignificant

I guess also, that the fact that I am a popular Jazz artist didn't make life easy for them -- At the time those Jewish commissars labeled me as a racist and an anti Semite, I was touring around the world with two ex Israeli Jews, an Argentinean Jew, a Romanian Gipsy and  a Palestinian Oud player.  It just couldn't work for them, and it didn't.

But here is an interesting twist :  In comparison with the contemporaneous  Jewish Red terror, Zionism comes across as a relatively tolerant  endeavour.  In recent months I have been approached by every possible Israeli media outlet. In the summer, Ouvda, the leading Israeli investigative TV show asked repeatedly to join with me and my band on the road. They were interested to  launch a debate, and to discuss my ideas in prime time.  This week, The Israeli Second Channel approached me for a news item.  Again, they were interested in my views. Yesterday, I discussed my views for an hour with Guy Elhanan on Israel's 'Kol ha-shalom' (Voice of Peace).

For the most obvious of reasons, I am very cautious when dealing with the Israeli media.  I choose my outlets very carefully. I usually tend to refuse. But, I also accept that as a person who cares about the prospect of  peace I must keep an open channel with the Israeli public, and two weeks ago I agreed to be interviewed by Haaretz writer,Yaron Frid.  This was my first published interview in Israel for more than a decade. I must admit that I was shocked to find out that not a single word of mine had been removed or censored. Haaretz let me say everything that the Kosher 'Socialists' had consistently tried to stop me from saying.

On my 'self-hatred' and  Jewishness   the Israeli paper Haaretz let me say :

"I am not a nice Jew, because I don't want to be a Jew, because Jewish values don't really turn me on and all this 'Pour out Thy wrath on the nations' stuff doesn't impress me."

It also let me question the entire Zionist ethos; the reality of plunder and deluded historicism : "Why do I live on lands that are not mine, the plundered lands of another people whose owners want to return to them but cannot? Why do I send my children to kill and be killed, after I myself was a soldier, too? Why do I believe all this bullshit about 'because it's the land of our forefathers' and 'our patrimony' if I am not even religious?

And about  Palestinians' right of return, I said :

"The Israelis can put an end to the conflict in two fucking minutes. Netanyahu gets up tomorrow morning, returns to the Palestinians the lands that belong to them."

They let me express how I would differentiate between, and define Israel and Palestine:  "Palestine is the land and Israel is the state. It took me time to realize that Israel was never my home, but only a fantasy saturated in blood and sweat."

About chosen-ness, de-Judification  and Jewish identity I said, "for Netanyahu and the Israelis to do that (accept the Palestinian  right of return), they have to undergo de-Judaization and accept the fact that they are like all peoples and are not the chosen people. So, in my analysis this is not a political, sociopolitical or socioeconomic issue but something basic that has to do with Jewish identity."

And in the interview I compared Jewish left with National Socialism -- And Haaretz's editorial  let it through: "The idea of left-wing Jews is fundamentally sickening.  It contains an absolute internal contradiction. If you are leftists it doesn't matter whether you're Jewish or not, so on principle when you present yourselves as leftist Jews you are accepting the idea of national socialism. Nazism."

Haaretz, as could be expected, challenged   my  opposition to Jewish politics :    "Atzmon has been accused from every possible platform of disseminating vitriol against Jews. He, though, maintains that he 'hates everyone in equal measure.' He's also been accused of self-hatred, but he is the first to admit this, and in comparison with Otto Weininger - the Austrian Jewish philosopher who converted to Christianity and of whom Hitler said, 'There was one good Jew in Germany, and he killed himself' - he is even proud. 'Otto and I are good friends.'"

But clearly, at least Israelis can cope with Otto Weininger and his ideology. However -- when I gave a talk about Otto Weininger in a London Marxist book shop five years ago (Bookmarks), a 'synagogue' of fourteen Jewish Marxists unsuccessfully tried to picket the event and to pressure the SWP into submission. 

Guess what; they failed.   

Haaretz  challenged  my take on the Holocaust; yet it  printed my answer without changing  a single word. "I am fighting against all the disgusting laws and persecutions of those so-called Holocaust deniers - a categorization I don't accept. I think the Holocaust, like any historical episode, must be open to research, to examination, to discussion and debate."

And Haaretz, evidently an Israeli Zionist paper, let me express my thoughts about Israeli mass murderers and their destiny. "It might be a good thing if the Nazi hunters hunt down [Shaul] Mofaz and [Ehud] Barak, for example, and not all kinds of 96-year-olds who are barely alive. It's pathetic."

It also let me tell Israelis that they are all to be blamed : "In Israel 94 percent of the nation supported Operation Cast Lead. On the one hand, you want to behave like a post-enlightenment state and talk to me about individualism, but on the other hand you surround yourselves with a wall and remain attached to a tribal identity."

Yaron Frid ended his piece saying, "Israel lost Gilad," and,   "The score, for now: 1-0, Palestine leading."

I was happy with the article. But I was also jealous. For here in Britain, we are still far from being free  to explore these issues.

The message here is plain and simple -- Haaretz, a  Zionist paper,  has let me discuss all those intellectual avenues that 'the  Kosher Socialists' insist on blocking. A week before my Haaretz special, the Israeli paper featured Mavi Marmara hero Ken O'keefe. Again, Haaretz coverage was fairly balanced; certainly more balanced than BBC Panorama.  

The moral is clear : As much as Zionism is repugnant and  murderous -- it is still way ahead of the Jewish Left , simply because it is still, in some regards at least, part of an ongoing and open discourse.

There is no doubt that amongst the  most prolific enemies of Israel and Jewish identity,  you will find Israelis and ex Israelis, such as Ilan Pappe,  Gideon Levi, Amira Hass, Tali Fahima, Israel Shamir, Israel Shahak,  Nurit Peled , Rami Elhanan Guy Elhanan, Jonathan Shapira, Yeshayahu Leibowitz, Mordechai Vanunu,  Uri Avneri, Shimon Tzabar, myself,  and others.

We may not always agree with each other -- but we let each other be.

Zionism was an attempt to bring about a new Jew: an ethical, productive and authentic being.  But Zionism failed all the way through. Israel is a criminal state, and the Israelis are collectively complicit in relentless crimes against humanity. And yet, Zionism has also  succeeded  in  erecting  a solid   school of eloquent and proud  'self haters'. Israelis are taught to be outspoken  and critical. Unlike the Diaspora Jewish left, that for some reason, operates as a thought-police, Israeli dissidence speaks out. Israelis are trained to celebrate their 'symptoms' -- and this also applies in the case of dissidence.

Unlike Jewish Marxism that operates  largely as a tribal PR campaign, Israeli dissidence is an ethical approach : You wouldn't hear Israeli activists  shouting 'not in my name'.   The Israelis mentioned above do accept that each Israeli crime is committed  in their names. They also accept that activism is the crucial shift from guilt into responsibility.  Hence, it is also far from  surprising that on the 'Jewish Boat to Gaza' mission, the Israeli veteran AIF pilot Shapira and also Elahanan, both spoke about ethics and humanitarian issues, while the British Jew, Kuper, was apparently, judging from his words, perhaps more concerned  with the amendment of  the image of world Jewry.

Being an ex Israeli, I believe that the only thing I  can do for Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, myself, my family, my neighbours and humanity -- is to stand firm and speak my heart against all odds.

I also believe that we all know the truth.

We just need to be courageous enough to spit it out.

(1) As bizarre as it may sound to some, 'Jews Against  Zionists' (JAZ) and 'Jews for BDS' (Boycott of Divestment of Israeli Goods) do affirm the Zionist mantra : They operate, primarily, as Jews.  As much as it is impossible for uprooted Palestinians   to settle in Israel and become a citizen with equal civil rights -- it is also impossible for them to  join any of the primarily Jewish groups for Palestine.     

(2) Richard Kuper,  the person behind 'Irene-the Jewish Boat to Gaza', was bold enough to admit it --  "Our goal is to show that not all Jews support Israeli policies toward Palestinians," he said. It is now an established fact that the Jewish boat carried hardly any humanitarian aid for the Gazans : its main mission, as far as Kuper was concerned, seems to have been to amend Jewish reputation.

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Being happy–is it good for the Jews? "Before Professor Dershowitz accused me of being an anti-Semite (news to me), I was a happy person. Since then, I'm still a happy person". –Michael Santomauro

An antisemite condemns people for being Jews, I am not an antisemite.--Michael Santomauro

Most of us are mentally trapped to think Jewish. Actually, it is safe to say that virtually every mainstream publication or or other type of media organ is "nothing more than a screen to present chosen views." The great battle over the last century has been a battle for the mind of the Western peoples, i.e., non-Jewish Euros. The chosen won it by acquiring control over essentially the complete mainstream news, information, education and entertainment media of every type, and using that control to infuse and disseminate their message, agenda and worldview, their way of thinking, or rather the way they want us to think. Since at least the 1960s this campaign has been effectively complete. Since then they have shaped and controlled the minds of all but a seeming few of us in varying degree with almost no opposition or competition from any alternative worldview. So now most of us are mentally trapped in the box the chosen have made for us, which we have lived in all our lives. Only a few have managed to avoid it or escape it, or to even sometimes see outside of it, and so actually "think outside of the (Jewish) box." --Michael Santomauro

Thank you and remember: 

Peace is patriotic!

Michael Santomauro
253 W. 72nd Street
New York, NY 10023

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From: braveheart <billguru1@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:17 AM
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Latest on neo-conservatives.

    THE BIRD THAT CHIRPS IN HEBREW

 

We hear constantly of the difference between a "neo-conservative" and a "paleo-conservative". What is the difference? The difference is the difference between a real patriot and an Israel First, America Last fraud. An Internet writer who goes by the name of Max Shpak offers a very useful analogy to illustrate the difference. Shpak refers to the well known phenomenon of a cuckoo bird invading a nest of chicks. The cuckoo imitates the chirping sounds of the birds. The chicks, in the imprinting stage, mistake the cuckoo for their mother. The cuckoo, thus disguised, manipulates and exploits the brainwashed birds. The neo-conservative, in reality an Israel First Jew, joins the conservative camp, chirping about high taxes and getting the government off the citizen's backs. He drapes himself in conservative rhetoric and tells the human birds what they want to hear. The human birds, thus deluded, welcome the neo-conservative as one of their own. Then the cuckoo starts chirping about a "War on Terror" and the alleged threat of "Islamo-Fascism". He forgets about reducing taxes and the size of government and instead tweets that the United States should spend trillions of dollars it does not have to fight wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran. In short, he shows his real agenda, "Israel Uber Alles" under the cloak of false conservatism. 

That is how to distinguish the "neo-conservative" cuckoo or one of its hirelings, like Glen Beck. To better emphasize the analogy with nature we must turn to an historical analogy. In the days of the British Mandate over Palestine there existed a man named Vladimir Jabotinsky. Jabotinsky is the unknown (to the gentiles) founding father of neo-conservatism. Vladimir Jabotinsky was the advocate of Revisionist Zionism, so-called because it refused to accept the partition of Jordan east of the river from the Palestinian Mandate. Jabotinsky wanted a Jewish state on both sides of the river. He abhorred the large number of Jews involved in Marxist socialism and was an enthusiastic advocate of free market economics. But he also opposed any compromise with the Arabs of Palestine, who he knew would never agree to the planting of a Jewish state in their land. To express his ideology, he wrote two famous essays, "The Iron Law" and "The Iron Wall (We and the Arabs)". From the former essay he wrote words widely quoted by the students of Zionism. In essence, he stated that the Arabs of Palestine were not savages. They were highly civilized and would never agree to a Zionist state in their land until all hope was lost to them. Thus, the Arabs must be confronted with an "iron wall of bayonets", to use Jabotinsky's famous phrase, to coerce their surrender to the unavoidable. Jabotinsky openly admitted that "Zionism is a colonizing adventure and it stands or falls on the use of force". He proclaimed: "It is important to speak Hebrew but it is more important to shoot." This is the true origin of the philosophy of the "War on Terror". It is the Jabotinsky philosophy of perpetual war with the Arabs to ensure the future security of the future state of Israel. Naturally, it would not do to tell Americans that they must fight and die for Israel's survival. Therefore, a ruse must be concocted. The ruse is to tell Americans that there exists a menace called "Islamo-fascism". America and Israel must jointly oppose this menace because it threatens both equally. As anyone can tell, this is precisely what has been done.  

There are other methods by which Americans can distinguish the Zionist neo-conservative cuckoo from the real thing. Real conservatives are "isolationists". That is, they do not believe in using America's military might to police the world. But Zionist neo-conservatives insist that America must police the world – for Israel's benefit. Zionist neo-conservatives are social liberals. They support open borders, diversity and the tearing down of America as a white country. They do this at the same time that they snarl for war against Iran for Israel's benefit. Two outstanding examples of this mindset are Senator Charles Schumer of New York and Senator Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut. Zionist cuckoo birds shall hiss with barely concealed hatred of actual conservatives like Patrick Buchanan. 

These, then, are the major differences between real conservatives and Zionist conservatives. But the simplest way to distinguish the real thing from the fake is to look for the bird with the hooked beak that chirps in Hebrew. 





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Being happy–is it good for the Jews? "Before Professor Dershowitz accused me of being an anti-Semite (news to me), I was a happy person. Since then, I'm still a happy person". –Michael Santomauro

An antisemite condemns people for being Jews, I am not an antisemite.--Michael Santomauro

Most of us are mentally trapped to think Jewish. Actually, it is safe to say that virtually every mainstream publication or or other type of media organ is "nothing more than a screen to present chosen views." The great battle over the last century has been a battle for the mind of the Western peoples, i.e., non-Jewish Euros. The chosen won it by acquiring control over essentially the complete mainstream news, information, education and entertainment media of every type, and using that control to infuse and disseminate their message, agenda and worldview, their way of thinking, or rather the way they want us to think. Since at least the 1960s this campaign has been effectively complete. Since then they have shaped and controlled the minds of all but a seeming few of us in varying degree with almost no opposition or competition from any alternative worldview. So now most of us are mentally trapped in the box the chosen have made for us, which we have lived in all our lives. Only a few have managed to avoid it or escape it, or to even sometimes see outside of it, and so actually "think outside of the (Jewish) box." --Michael Santomauro

Thank you and remember: 

Peace is patriotic!

Michael Santomauro
253 W. 72nd Street
New York, NY 10023

Call anytime: 917-974-6367

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