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Jul 20, 2011

How true to life is Wiesel's description of Buchenwald in Night?

 


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Elie Wiesel Cons the World

 

How true to life is Wiesel's 

description of Buchenwald in Night?

 

 

 

 

By Carolyn Yeager

 

Ken Waltzer wrote in his comment on this blog on June 27th:

"More important, Elie Wiesel's commentary in Night bears fairly close resemblance to the actual experiences he had at Buchenwald-as recorded in camp documents." (my italics)

 

What are we to make of the words "fairly close resemblance?" According to Waltzer-and 

to Wiesel-Wiesel is writing down his own experience. "Every word is true!" Wiesel has said of his book Night. Thus it should exactly resemble the actual experience he had. I'm going to examine closely what is written in Night about Buchenwald to see if that

 is the case.

It's not too difficult because the newest English edition of Night1-a new translation by wife Marion Wiesel which changes (corrects) some of the more blatant "boo-boos" found in the original 1960 edition-comprises only 115 pages. Of that, Wiesel's description of his time at Buchenwald begins on page 104, giving it only 11 pages (one page being blank).

Wiesel wrote a new preface for this new translation in which he tries to answer some of the more common criticisms of his book. His answer to the differences between the Yiddish And the World Remained Silent and Night is that he cut passages he thought might be superfluous ... or "too personal, too private, perhaps." Strange thing to say since he had already published it. Concerning Buchenwald, he quotes the original writing about the death of his father, where the club-wielder is called "an SS" three times! In Night, as you will see below, this person becomes simply "an officer." Naturally I ask: Did this scene even happen? Wiesel also tries to explain why he cut out from the ending so much of what was in the Yiddish version, but in doing so he leaves unmentioned an extensive part of what he cut. I have quoted these two endings in Shadowy Origins of Night, Part II.

 

 

 

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Teheran Holocaust Committe Member Christian Lindtner claims : ‘Holocaust denial is a moral and intellectual aberration. … Denial is Chutzpah’.

 

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Fredrick Toben" <toben@toben.biz>
Date: July 20, 2011 8:59:20 PM EDT
To: "'Christian Lindtner'" <lindtner@dr.com>
Cc: <info@adelaideinstitute.org>, "'Michael'" <reporternotebook@gmail.com>
Subject: Teheran Holocaust Committe Member Christian Lindtner claims : 'Holocaust denial is a moral and intellectual aberration. … Denial is Chutzpah'.

Thank you for your quick reply, Christian.

 

1. My immediate response to your claim is, of course, joy because now we do have substantial evidence to prove that gassings occurred and that the three pillars of the Holocaust-Shoah narrative – 6 million, systematic extermination, homicidal gas chambers – is a proven physical fact.

 

2. But then I smile to myself when I read that you are relying on German scholarship and that your classical training enables you to discern, and to formulate: 'Holocaust denial is a moral and intellectual aberration. … My claim is serious: Denial is Chutzpah'.

 

3. Christian, I don't know what has happened to your perspective, whether you spent too much time trimming your cars and if this mindset of yours constitutes a recantation of your previously held belief. But it seems to me you have forgotten that all the research you rely upon is research done under legal duress.

 

4. It is not free research because it is illegal in Germany and elsewhere to say anything positive about the 1933-45 war years. I speak from experience, as do Stäglich, Rudolf, Zündel, Fröhlich, Honsik, Mahler, Stolz, et al, who can all attest to that pressure imposed on them with the force of legal persecution.

 

5. Your approach reminds me of the old scholastic argument about solving the universal and particular problem – how many angels fit on a pinhead?

 

6. I am sending this item through various lists and perhaps we can hear from you again – and perhaps you can enlighten me on how to overcome the legal barrier that prevents us from seeking the truth of the matter, without you so flippantly making a nonsense claim: Denial is Chutzpah.

 

Cheers

Fredrick Töben

 

From: Christian Lindtner [mailto:lindtner@dr.com]
Sent: Thursday, 21 July 2011 3:18 AM
To: Fredrick Toben
Subject: RE: FW: That's for you - Germans and German Jews set up Israel's civil service - there was a German brain drain to Israel - Hitler father of Israel -

 

Yes, Fredrick, I have now studied these and other books by the best German scholars for several years, and of course,  I am certain that one can rely on their research. As a classical philologist, I recognize traditional German scholarship when it is at its best.
To claim that Leichenkeller 1 in Krema II was not a gas chamber is also a case of Chutzpah. As you are aware, Bischoff wrote to Kammler  29 Jan. 1943 that it was a Vergasungskeller, and the two engineers from Topf & Söhne (Karl Schultze and Fritz Sander, 17 Feb. 1943) called it a Gaskeller.
Irving, Butz, Faurisson have done what they could to argue that the Germans, who were there and had no reason to lie to one another, were wrong, even dishonest. Their suggestions about the Keller being for gassing cadavers (!) or about its being an air raid shelter are absolutely silly.
 

The lacking holes can also easily be explained: When Leichenkeller 1 was blown up, the holes, i.e. the edges of the holes, would have been the first to be blown away by the enormous pressure seeking to "escape".
Gassing here and in the other camps was simply a natural continuation of the euthanasia program, where, for sure, more than 70000 were gassed.
The evidence for gas vans is also  convincingly established.
It is also chutzpah to say:" No holes, no Holocaust " - as if the shooting of millions of Jews had nothing to do with the Endlösung!

So, for these and many other easons, Fredrick, it is now my firm conviction that Holocaust denial is a moral and intellectual aberration.
It is a very very sad story - I do not need to remind YOU!
My claim is serious: Denial is Chutzpah.
See, if you have time, see also my presentation: Hitler´s Prophecy 1-7 on youtube.
Now we understand why Himmler said to the generals in Sonthofen, 21 June 1944:"Es ist gut, dass wir die Härte hatten, die Juden in unserem Bereich auszurotten", and he goes on the say that die Weiber und Kinder were also murdered....
Himmler was honest, and we have to be honest also.
Please feel free to use this letter as you may wish.
You may want to post it on your site!


Sincerely
Christian

----- Original Message -----

From: Fredrick Toben

Sent: 07/20/11 02:43 PM

To: 'Christian Lindtner'

Subject: RE: FW: That's for you - Germans and German Jews set up Israel's civil service - there was a German brain drain to Israel - Hitler father of Israel -

 

Are you serious, Christian?

 

 

Fredrick

 

 

 

 

 

From: Christian Lindtner [mailto:lindtner@dr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2011 8:49 PM
To: Fredrick Toben
Cc: orphicus2008@gmail.com
Subject: RE: FW: That's for you - Germans and German Jews set up Israel's civil service - there was a German brain drain to Israel - Hitler father of Israel -

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Fredrick,

Yes, this is a very sad story.
I hope you will find the time to study the two huge books about the German Ordnungspolizei by Wolfgang Curilla (2006 & 2011). His admirable research  is based on original German sources.
It can no longer be denied that more that 4.000.000 Jews were murdered by various units of German police etc.
Hence, the time has come to face the fact that Holocaust revisionism, or denial", is simply irresponsible CHUTZPAH.
Cui bono?

Best wishes
Christian Lindtner

 

 

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

 

 

From: Fredrick Toben

 

 

Sent: 07/18/11 04:23 AM

 

 

To: 'Julie Chambers'

 

 

Subject: RE: FW: That's for you - Germans and German Jews set up Israel's civil service - there was a German brain drain to Israel - Hitler father of Israel -

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, thanks Julie, it's old stuff for me – but excellent to watch for those who are just getting into it -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- and to think Zündel then left Canada for the USA where he married Ingrid Rimland, then was extradited back to Canada for two years prison, then off to Germany where he spent 5 years in a German prison.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's legal persecution.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fredrick

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Julie Chambers [mailto:orphicus2008@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 18 July 2011 10:22 AM
To: Fredrick Toben
Subject: Re: FW: That's for you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Fredrick Toben <toben@toben.biz> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Julie Chambers [mailto:orphicus2008@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 16 July 2011 11:39 PM
To: Fredrick Toben
Subject: Re: FW: That's for you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

British Holocaust denier verdict upheld

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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British-born Roman Catholic Bishop, Richard Williamson

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A German appeals court has upheld the guilty verdict of a British bishop who had been earlier convicted on charges of denying the Holocaust.
The Regensburg court on Monday confirmed a conviction issued against Richard Williamson last year for Holocaust denial, but decided to reduce his penalty from the original fine of EUR 10,000 to EUR 6,500 (USD 9,136), the Associated Press reported. 

The 71-year-old bishop had stated in a 2008 interview with a Swedish TV station that he did not believe Jews lost their lives in gas chambers in the Nazi concentration camps during the Second World War. 

Williamson's lawyers have not denied the statements made by him during the interview, but stressed that such views could be expressed freely in Sweden. 

Holocaust denial is considered a crime in Germany. 

In a similar case, Fredrick Toben, a graduate of Oxford's Exeter College and a German-born Australian author, was tried in Germany in 1999 for his revisionist views of the Holocaust and sentenced to seven months in prison. 

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Fw: The contagious failing economy

 

 
THE CONTAGIOUS FAILING ECONOMY
 
When we venture into the field of finances, our teachers are  generally left at sea, for by their own admission, most of them are notoriously poor economists, and ye the economic facets of the breakdown of constitutional government are too important to ignore.  In this instant we rely on the moderate businessman and the few teachers of economics who do not peddle fiscal nonsense.  They tell us that a  government which is unsound economically is one which is in danger of general collapse, and to this observation the historian can add the comment that modern dictatorships often arise in periods of economic as well as political breakdown. 
 
Fiscal solvency is one of the strongest props of constitutional  government as well as a monarchy; whereas unemployment, inflation, and rising debt are always among its deadliest foes. The latter three factors have been present with increasing force ever since the end of World War II,  and about to reach a point where their disruptive influences will result in chaos.  Unemployment presents opportunities to those seeking to institute totalitarian rule, for fathers who
cannot feed and support their families are desperate men without hope. They are the ones who will follow any ranting demagogue who promises bread and jobs. The unemployed are a reservoir of potential revolutionary danger in that
they may b e used by an elite seeking to  establish dictatorial rule.
 
To say that no jobs can be found for millions of people is to infer that the need for the hands and brains of ordinary men and women has become static, or to say that jobs can be found when no industry abounds, is the counsel of foolish despair or worse. If we put to work on this great human problem as much money and brainpower as was expanded on World War II, a solution will be found.  However, the best solution well within the American tradition, is for the federal government to  get out of business and industry activities, while at the same time reducing taxes and restrictive regulations. Encourage rather than hinder, free enterprise, so that investment cash may flow into private businesses, creating millions of new jobs. Instead of giving "stimulus packages to Wall Street.
 
In addition to those who are unemployed, all sectors of American society suffer from inflation, that is every sector except that tiny group whose income or wealth is too great to allow them to feel any squeeze, so long as what they possess
is not totally expropriated. To some extent big labor and big business are able to brace themselves against the shock of surging inflation. The unions react by striking for, and obtaining higher wages, while big businesses respond with price increases.  Prices always stay ahead of wages, and as the two chase each other up the economic staircase, the pressures of spiraling inflation intensify.
 
Those who are poorly informed should not jump to the erroneous conclusion that I am saying that  rising wages and prices are the cause of inflation.  These factors are only the symptoms of economic illness; they do not cause inflation any more than fever and chills cause sicknesses. Governments cause inflation by debasement of the currency, by deficit spending, and pouring extra billions of dollars into circulation  which is far in excess of any amount warranted by increased productivity. Whenever there is more money to spend that there are good and services to buy, inflation results.  Inflation now  is threatening to ruin the middle class in industrialized nations around the world. Inflation since World War II has gone up more than 200% on many items.
 
The nightmare grows in part out of the dollar's shrinking value.  According to government's figures, its value is derived by comparing the purchasing power of the contemporary dollar with some base that is not fixed. At one time the base year was 1939,  but as the dollar grew smaller in comparison with that unit, the government's experts would move the base up to a year of greater inflation, so that the comparison would seem more encouraging and much smaller. If the 1939 base had been retained, the dollar today would have to be pegged at fifteen cents or less.
 
Remorseless operation of economic laws have much to do with the economic distress whenever money is debased, for it loses value by printing huge amounts of dollar bills. or by failing to back up the dollars with a sufficient quantity of precious metal. The United States has allowed the gold reserve to shrink.  Only public trust in the credit and financial solvency of the government has prevented a spectacular collapse. How large the federal debt can become without precipitating further economic collapse is a matter of conjecture.
 
No government can place itself outside the rule of economic laws, although governments do have one avenue of relief not available to corporations or industries, or individuals. This mode of relief is the repudiation of a nation's debt. As Greece is considering. Totalitarian dictatorships might use debt repudiation without economic ruin, but governments such as a republic  would be extremely lucky to survive a measure so desperate and so utterly a variance with its economic tradition. The monetary unit would collapse,and financial panic would sweep the country. Collapsing banks would precipitate a run on the entire  banking  establishment, including savings and loan associations. The scale of pandemonium and despair would make the stock market crash of 1929 look like a minor local upset by comparison.  The final result only could be institution of a tyrannical form dictatorship.
 
Somehow the debt has to be reduced, for at some future date its presence could represent a source of political strength to those who control the central government. Powerful  financial interests who own government bonds naturally are loyal to the ruling element, for they have economic ties with the government, and must protect their investment.  Alexander Hamilton in the  early days of the Republic saw this fact, so he advanced the notion of creating a public debt, as
a means of cementing the "right" people's  loyalty to the newly-established  government.
 
Economic interest therefor places a powerful lever in the hands of the master class who seek to gain support from the wealthy upper classes and their intellectual  allies. a threat to confiscate investment portfolios, or to repudiate part of
the debt, can force these reluctant groups to go along with whatever political  action the power elite contemplates. This is coercion, but there is also the lure of reward.  They could be promised refinancing of their holdings at more attractive notes, if they supported those who usurped total  political power. ( I am so happy that I was able to study economics before Maynard Keynes deficit program was foisted on the rich nations)
 
In order to reduce the debt that represents so many dangers to constitutional government, one of the major guidelines must be economy. As painfully unused as it is to economizing, the federal government has to trim its swollen budget. The process has to begin with Congress, it appropriates vast sums of money with light-hearted unconcern; they need to be taught economics before campaigning for Congress, and the value of money.  there are two key reforms needed—one, which is anathema to the bureaucrats, and the other which will arouse the massive opposition of the international bankers who control our money. And perhaps the change that can be engineered is first to repeal the income tax amendment.
This will save the middle class from being wiped out by oppressive taxation, reduce the huge size of the federal government, and sharply curb federal power, and restore to state and local governments the power usurped from them;   returning the funds they need to operate without federal handouts or controls. One can expect the federal bureaucracy to  fight desperately against this proposal.
 
Heaviest guns of the money masters will be brought against this reform:  abolish the Federal Reserve System---that private banking agency foisted on the American people in 1913 by a most amazing  conspiracy in American History. Only Congress truly or legally has the power to make our money and to regulate the value thereof. The international bankers have gained control of our money by illegal means, and have since netted Billions and Billons in interest.  A large portion of the national debt could legally be  eliminated at the stroke of a pen....pay off the system, repudiate the interest paid on "nothing",  and resume issuance of debt-free money, amounts of which will be regulated by increases in productivity of the national economy. Which can be done by producing more at home, and lesser imports...This can be accomplished only if conservative, patriotic Americans, determined to restore our constitutional republic..the radicals and liberals of the two major parties will coalesce, and the American political system will be divided between conservatives and liberal as it once was.
 
The fight to balance the budget is not as complex as Congress and Obama make it out to be....first, both should forget about cutting down on Social Security and Medicare... this money is not tax, but are premiums paid for a pension plan and medical care..what the government need to do is to stop robbing these accounts..
 
There are myriad other ways in which individual freedoms have been reduced, and no segment of the American Society is immune to the inexorable degradation of our cherished political traditions— and the gravest danger is that constant exposure breeds a sort of resignation  and in time what was once regarded as an evil becomes an accepted way of life. What we Americans now accept as the normal course of events would have driven our forefathers into flaming rebellion against what they would have considered "an intolerable tyranny."  How true, then, is the statement, "Yesterday's  radicalism becomes tomorrow's conservatism!"
 
 
 
 
 
 

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...an Israeli lawyer has filed a class-action lawsuit against former President Jimmy Carter, seeking $5 million in damages because his book "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid" allegedly defamed Israel. Link: http://tinyurl.com/3pltqg2

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Letter from Israel: Of hate speech, boycotts and censorship - Guest Voices - The Washington Post

 

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...an Israeli lawyer has filed a class-action lawsuit against former President Jimmy Carter, seeking $5 million in damages because his book "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid" allegedly defamed Israel. Link: http://tinyurl.com/3pltqg2

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Insane....

 


 

New Jersey rabbi accused in Jewish divorce kidnapping plot

TRENTON, July 18 (Reuters) - A New Jersey rabbi and his wife surrendered to authorities on Monday on charges of kidnapping an Israeli man and threatening to bury him alive if he did not agree to a traditional Jewish divorce.


Rabbi David Wax, 49, and Judy Wax, 47, of Lakewood, N.J., face the possibility of life in prison if convicted of kidnapping in New Jersey. 
They appeared in federal court in Trenton Monday afternoon and indicated they would post $500,000 bail to secure their release. 

Under Jewish law, in order to finalize a divorce, the husband must grant his wife a "get," a document that permits her to remarry. 

According to the criminal complaint, the Israeli man, who lived in New Jersey, was invited to the Waxes' home on Oct. 16, 2010, purportedly to discuss work he and David Wax were doing on some Talmudic texts, federal prosecutors said. Instead, he endured hours of violence and threats, according to documents filed in U.S. District Court in New Jersey. Wax and at least two unidentified men administered a beating, showed him a body bag and promised to bury him alive in the Pocono Mountains if he did not agree to the divorce, the complaint alleges. Wax also allegedly forced the man to call his father in Israel, who recorded the call, authorities said. Wax told the father that he would kill him and his son unless the father paid $100,000 to the wife's family, authorities said.

"For you there's a special gift," Wax told the father, according to the complaint. "It's called a bullet."

U.S. Magistrate Judge Douglas Arpert ordered the Waxes to surrender their passports and remain in New Jersey. Judy Wax has dual citizenship in the United States and Israel and her husband is a U.S. citizen. 

More than a dozen friends and family members attended the 10-minute court session, during which most of the men quietly read the Torah. Defense attorney Mitchell Ansell, who represents David Wax, said his client is innocent.

"He has no history of any type of criminal or violent behavior," Ansell said, before the court appearance. "He is a father of eight who runs a nonprofit publishing company of Jewish materials."

While the complaint does not connect the man's wife, who lives in Israel, to the alleged crimes, it says travel records show she went to New York a day before the alleged attack and returned to Israel on the following day. Both Waxes were charged with kidnapping, and David Wax was also charged with making a threatening phone call. Ansell confirmed Wax knows the Israeli man's wife but would not comment further.

The case is U.S. v. David Wax and Judy Wax, U.S. District Court for the District of New Jersey, No. 11-2525.

For the prosecution: Assistant U.S. Attorney Jennifer Davenport.
For David Wax: Mitchell Ansell of Ansell Grimm & Aaron.
For Judy Wax: Steven Secare of Secare, Ryan & Hensel.
(Reporting by Bernd Debusmann Jr.; Additional reporting by Joseph Ax)




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Now FREE to watch all 91 minutes: "Defamation," from Israeli filmmaker Yoav Shamir. LINK: http://tinyurl.com/3rvhdvc

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...an Israeli lawyer has filed a class-action lawsuit against former President Jimmy Carter, seeking $5 million in damages because his book "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid" allegedly defamed Israel. Link: http://tinyurl.com/3pltqg2

"...when you have laws against questioning the Holocaust narrative, you are screaming at the other person to stop thinking!!!" ---Mike Santomauro. *Anthony Lawson's Holocaust Video "were the Germans so stupid"... Link: http://tinyurl.com/44nsrco

An anti-Semite condemns people for being Jews, I am not an anti-Semite.--Mike Santomauro. Link: http://tinyurl.com/42z9p8o

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Jul 19, 2011

ISRAELI WHO DIED IN CHRISTCHURCH EARTHQUAKE MAY HAVE BEEN MOSSAD AGENT, PAPER CLAIMS

 

Israeli who died in Christchurch earthquake may have been Mossad agent, paper claims

From: NewsCore July 20, 2011 1:39PM

AN Israeli man who died in February's devastating Christchurch earthquake may have been part of a team of Israeli Mossad agents gathering secret information from New Zealand databases.

Three Israelis were among the 181 people who died when the 6.3-magnitude shock hit on February 22. One, Ofer Benyamin Mizrahi, 24, was found to be carrying at least five passports, according to The Southland Times.

The report claimed the police national computer system has been under investigation by the New Zealand Security Intelligence Service (SIS) since the earthquake, because of fears Israeli spies loaded software into the system that would allow access to intelligence files.

The report also highlighted a surge of top-level interest from Israel in the quake's aftermath.

Following the earthquake, Prime Minister John Key reportedly received four calls from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Soon after, Israel's civil defence chief traveled to Christchurch, while a complete Israeli urban search and rescue squad also scrambled to get there - at one stage being confronted by armed local police and forced out of a sealed-off section of the devastated city.

Three other Israelis, who had been travelling in a minivan with Mizrahi, were quickly evacuated back to Israel.

Prime Minister John Key refused to confirm details of an SIS investigation this morning, saying only that he was satisfied there had been no misuse of the police computer. Mr Key confirmed that a dead Israeli was found with multiple passports, but said that none of them were from New Zealand.

Asked if he had any reason to believe that Mossad agents had been active in Christchurch at the time of the earthquake, Mr Key told The New Zealand Herald, "I'm just not in a position to comment on those matters and I'm not going to. I don't think it is in the national interest to do so."

The New Zealand Herald reported that Israeli Ambassador Shemi Tzur had dismissed the allegations as "science fiction."

"These were youngsters holidaying in your beautiful country ... we encourage our young people to visit New Zealand," Mr Tzur said.

New Zealand police today issued a statement saying its computer systems and the information stored in them were secure.

Acting Chief Information Officer Murray Mitchell said, "These systems are regularly being updated and reviewed, and we are confident that our data and network were not compromised during the Christchurch Earthquake response or subsequently."

Political risk consultant Paul Buchanan, who has worked with intelligence officers in the US, told news website stuff.co.nz that he believed the four Israelis were probably on a "trolling mission" searching for identities they could steal.

"Because of New Zealand's international reputation the passports are extremely valuable for intelligence services," Mr Buchanan said.

"New Zealand has this reputation for independence and autonomy ... people trust New Zealand."

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