From: Fran Scott <frankscott@comcast.net >
Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: ''Resolve Among the Ruins'' Attention Bob Herbert
Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: ''Resolve Among the Ruins'' Attention Bob Herbert
This is a message for "giuseppe" and all other dim witted, low IQ dagos, wops and grease balls who are only capable of making money by joining the Italian army and picking up garbage ( sanitation workers), catching and selling fish, smelling like garlic and maybe making a few big bucks when they run numbers, sell dope , rob and steal from good people and kill for the mafia - as long as smart Jews handle the difficult math for their microscopic garlic sized brains ....
That's on a par with the racist horseshit in that message, which is really sad coming from what I thought was an person of post-caveman thought capacity...
Boy do we have problems!
Frank Scott
That's on a par with the racist horseshit in that message, which is really sad coming from what I thought was an person of post-caveman thought capacity...
Boy do we have problems!
Frank Scott
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From Manual Sotil
Re: ''Resolve Among the Ruins'' Attention Bob Herbert
Jan. 18, 2010
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Giuseppe,
You would think that reporters such as Bob Herbert of the New York Times have access to a different set of media such as books, news, Internet, television, press, movies, etc. and therefore the information they receive is very different from what we mere mortals do. As a result, they see what we see quite differently. Where has he seen this "resolve"? Such description baffles me for I have seen nothing in this catastrophe that resembles resolve. The only reasonable explanation is that Bob Herbert is privy to information that is accessible only to reporters. Instead of "resolve" he could have said "grim resolve", or mentioned something about "stiff upper lip", for all the elucidation such descriptions would lend to the situation.
The behavior of the Haitian people in face of this calamity has been one of total disorganization and helplessness like, as you point out, if they were children. There is no a public figure in evidence, beginning with President Preval, who seems to be making any attempt to give some sense of direction to the rescue efforts, to try to establish some sort of organization or control, or at least to give succor and encouragement to the survivors.
The international community had to descend on this poor land, once again, to rescue them not only from the effects of the natural disaster, but also from their own lassitude, incompetence and improvidence. I cannot even think what the immediate future would hold for the country were it not for this international help. Blaming the colonial past and ill-conceived foreign interventions is no longer a helpful excuse for there is hardly a country on earth that has not suffered calamities such as plagues, natural disasters, depopulation due to foreign invasions, total wars, massacres, etc.
Surely, reporters such as Mr. Herbert know that most people accept what they read in the newspaper as reality or what some talking head tells them, ignoring the other reality presented by the neutral eye of cameras and microphones. Other than fooling the readers, I fail to understand what positive contribution such warped assessment of reality accomplishes. Unless perhaps, there is some hidden agenda.
Manuel Sotil
You would think that reporters such as Bob Herbert of the New York Times have access to a different set of media such as books, news, Internet, television, press, movies, etc. and therefore the information they receive is very different from what we mere mortals do. As a result, they see what we see quite differently. Where has he seen this "resolve"? Such description baffles me for I have seen nothing in this catastrophe that resembles resolve. The only reasonable explanation is that Bob Herbert is privy to information that is accessible only to reporters. Instead of "resolve" he could have said "grim resolve", or mentioned something about "stiff upper lip", for all the elucidation such descriptions would lend to the situation.
The behavior of the Haitian people in face of this calamity has been one of total disorganization and helplessness like, as you point out, if they were children. There is no a public figure in evidence, beginning with President Preval, who seems to be making any attempt to give some sense of direction to the rescue efforts, to try to establish some sort of organization or control, or at least to give succor and encouragement to the survivors.
The international community had to descend on this poor land, once again, to rescue them not only from the effects of the natural disaster, but also from their own lassitude, incompetence and improvidence. I cannot even think what the immediate future would hold for the country were it not for this international help. Blaming the colonial past and ill-conceived foreign interventions is no longer a helpful excuse for there is hardly a country on earth that has not suffered calamities such as plagues, natural disasters, depopulation due to foreign invasions, total wars, massacres, etc.
Surely, reporters such as Mr. Herbert know that most people accept what they read in the newspaper as reality or what some talking head tells them, ignoring the other reality presented by the neutral eye of cameras and microphones. Other than fooling the readers, I fail to understand what positive contribution such warped assessment of reality accomplishes. Unless perhaps, there is some hidden agenda.
Manuel Sotil
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Subject: ''Resolve Among the Ruins'' Attention Bob Herbert
Dear Mr. Herbert,
In your column today, '' Resolve Among the Ruins " (NY Times 1/16/10) you state that '' The earthquake will not defeat the Haitian people " which suggests that the Haitian people possess a unique fortitude and resourcefulness in the face of extreme adversity. Nothing could be further from reality. History has repeatedly shown that when Haiti is struck by these natural calamities, its people react like helpless children, the recent earthquake being typical. If not for the relief efforts of the international community led by mainly white nations, the death toll would not be in the tens of thousands but in the millions in a few weeks.
As with most liberals, you are quick to resolve the Haitians of any responsibility for their plight. You point to a historic legacy that has included '' enslavement, murderous colonial oppression, invasions by powerful foreigner armies, grotesque homegrown tyrants...". Nowhere do you mention a national IQ that is around 75 or the fact the the country was existing on a system of international welfare long before the recent catastrophe that drained the population of any survival skills or ambition that they might have possessed. So far the only thing that the Haitians have been able to organize are the marauding gangs of looters who the media will find increasingly difficult to ignore as the island descends into further chaos and anarchy in the coming weeks.
giuseppe furioso
--
NOW AN AMAZON KINDLE BOOK ON YOUR PC, iPHONE OR KINDLE DEVICE
Debating the Holocaust: A New Look at Both Sides By Thomas Dalton
In this remarkable, balanced book, the author skillfully reviews and compares "traditional" and "revisionist" views on the "The Holocaust."
On one side is the traditional, orthodox view -- six million Jewish casualties, gas chambers, cremation ovens, mass graves, and thousands of witnesses. On the other is the view of a small band of skeptical writers and researchers, often unfairly labeled "deniers," who contend that the public has been gravely misled about this emotion-laden chapter of history.
The author establishes that the arguments and findings of revisionist scholars are substantive, and deserve serious consideration. He points out, for example, that even the eminent Jewish Holocaust scholar Raul Hilberg acknowledged that there was no budget, plan or order by Hitler for a World War II program to exterminate Europe's Jews.
This book is especially relevant right now, as "Holocaust deniers" are routinely and harshly punished for their "blasphemy," and as growing numbers of people regard the standard, Hollywoodized "Holocaust" narrative with mounting suspicion and distrust.
The author of this book, who writes under the pen name of "Thomas Dalton," is an American scholar who holds a doctoral degree from a major US university.
This is no peripheral debate between arcane views of some obscure aspect of twentieth century history. Instead, this is a clash with profound social-political implications regarding freedom of speech and press, the manipulation of public opinion, how our cultural life is shaped, and how power is wielded in our society.
http://www.amazon.
Peace.
Michael Santomauro
Editorial Director
Call anytime: 917-974-6367
ReporterNotebook@
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